re: Jake Locker or Cam Newton?

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Locker will go waaaaaaay before Cam Newton, but Newton will in reality probably only be 8-15 spots below Locker considering he'll be drafted as an athlete rather than a QB.

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I think they'll be picked a max of 10 picks apart. Most people think they'll be chosen within 3 picks of each other.

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As a QB, Locker will go waaaaaaay before Cam Newton, but Newton will in reality probably only be 8-15 spots below Locker considering he'll be drafted as an athlete rather than a QB.

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Locker can't pass effectively on the college level, he will be a career backup in the NFL. Scouts and personnel managers are more intelligent than McShea and Kiper.

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adammwilson

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Good god, what is it with you and Locker. You defend him to death in every single thread. You his cousin or something?


I mean, he's a good guy from everything I hear, but his draft stock has fallen quite a bit this year. He came back this year in order to show what he can do and the bottom line is that he didn't really perform. Yeah, his supporting cast isn't as great as those of Newton or Mallett or even Luck, but still. Jay Cutler played on some bad Vanderbilt teams [all he had was Earl Bennett] and against much better defenses, and even he was able to put up more than 2209 yards. In addition, Cutler completed 60% of his passes his senior year.

Locker's best game came against Oregon State this year.
Att Comp
Oregon St. Turf W 35-34 35 21

Pct Yds YPA TD Int
60.0 286 8.2 5 1 170.07

He broke the three hundred yard passing marker ONCE this season, which is pretty bad considering the mediocre defenses he faced.


Right now, I would take Luck, Newton, Ponder, Pryor [assuming he declares due to Tattoo-gate], and Mallett over him.

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Shouldn't locker make his team better, i mean my god they just seem uninspired up there in washington. They aren't even winning the give me games.

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Have seen Locker play a lot living in the Pac. NW, and unless he undergoes a major transformation he will be a lousy QB on the next level. His best bet is probably WR. While Locker isn't a great QB, he is a fantastic athlete.

Locker can't pass effectively on the college level, he will be a career backup in the NFL. Scouts and personnel managers are more intelligent than McShea and Kiper.



If you remember, the so called EXPERTS said the same thing about TOM BRADY...
6th rd (199th overall).. of the 12 QBs drafted in 2000, only 4 remain in the NFL. Of the four,only one is headed to the HOF..the little skinny kid drafted out of michigan..TOM BRADY...

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If you remember, the so called EXPERTS said the same thing about TOM BRADY...

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The difference is that Tom Brady (when he had the chance to play) was still a solid QB at Michigan. Locker has been flat-out bad at times. His accuracy needs a lot of work.

It's also not a good comparison. Unlike Brady, Locker has been given the opportunity to prove what he can do in college and he's been unspectacular. On top of that, it's very doubtful that Locker's mental make-up is as good as Brady's. I'm not saying he can't be a good starting QB, but from what I've seen, it's very, very doubtful. For every Brady that has made it in the league, there are 100 QBs that never make it.

I would definitely take Newton over Locker. Newton has as much athletic potential as Locker but makes less mistakes and has shown the ability to handle pressure while carrying a team on his back.

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Locker over Cam for pro potential.

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I can respect that opinion. I still don't think that Locker will be any good.

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Cam's going to make a great tight end or DE though.

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Cam has the athletic ability to be a HOF TE or DE, but it's more likely that if he fails at QB, someone like Al Davis will give him another shot at QB. By then, it would probably be too late for him to switch positions.

The difference is that Tom Brady (when he had the chance to play) was still a solid QB at Michigan. Locker has been flat-out bad at times. His accuracy needs a lot of work.

It's also not a good comparison. Unlike Brady, Locker has been given the opportunity to prove what he can do in college and he's been unspectacular. On top of that, it's very doubtful that Locker's mental make-up is as good as Brady's. I'm not saying he can't be a good starting QB, but from what I've seen, it's very, very doubtful. For every Brady that has made it in the league, there are 100 QBs that never make it.



I feel what you're saying and i agree...maybe that was a "not so good" comparison..but,the point i was really trying to make is that we cannot judge an athletes college career to what he might turn out to be on the NFL level..we as fans see that all the time...guys we've never heard of become pro bowlers & HOFers and big name athletes bomb out...

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what is it with you and Locker.

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I think he is given a bad rap because he hasn't put up elite stats. He has a ton of potential and has proven he can be accurate and fit the ball into tight spaces.

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his draft stock has fallen quite a bit this year.

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Not really. It's fallen from #1 overall to #10-15.

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Jay Cutler played on some bad Vanderbilt teams [all he had was Earl Bennett] and against much better defenses, and even he was able to put up more than 2209 yards. In addition, Cutler completed 60% of his passes his senior year.

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Locker did miss a game and barely threw in a few games. (see Stanford game). Cutler and Locker's completion % is actually very comparable. Cutler's in his last year was 59.1. Locker's was 56.6 and in his best year (last year) it was 58.2.

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He broke the three hundred yard passing marker ONCE this season, which is pretty bad considering the mediocre defenses he faced.

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agreed. But For example Stafford only broke that mark twice his last year.

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Right now, I would take Ponder and Pryor [assuming he declares due to Tattoo-gate] over him.

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