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re: Is the Heisman Trophy fixable or is it a lost cause?
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:51 am to IAmReality
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:51 am to IAmReality
Mark Ingram rushed for 1000 yards. Seems legit
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:51 am to demtigers73
Yep Faulks snub shows how political the award is, if you don't play for a sexy school you won't win it.
I mean they almost gave it to Manti Teo for God's sake.
I mean they almost gave it to Manti Teo for God's sake.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:51 am to ColoBama
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Who should have gotten it over him then?
Come on, entertain us.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:51 am to IAmReality
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There's such a fixation on ESPN hype
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:51 am to IAmReality
The gum bumpers were talking about how Watson had regressed after the regular season was over. He really didn't get cranked up until the very end of the year. His best two games were in the playoffs.
Being the best player on the best team does not mean you deserve the Heisman Trophy.
Being the best player on the best team does not mean you deserve the Heisman Trophy.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:52 am to I Bleed Garnet
That's one of 3 more deserving players from last year that should have gotten it over Henry.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:52 am to Froman
I think tebows infamous year he had was the last time the best player truly won. That or Johnny football
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:53 am to Froman
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I can't remember the last time the best player actually won it.
You don't remember Cam?
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:56 am to Lestradamus
Cam Newton, while he's a jackass, was probably the most deserving winner since Reggie Bush. Without him, they lose at least 2 games that year off the top of my head, LSU and Bama.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:57 am to weagle99
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You don't remember Cam?
Yea, I'm no fan of Cam's attitude sometimes, but he was a game changer all by himself in 2010. He was absolutely deserving that year.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:01 pm to IAmReality
It will never get lower than Charles Woodson winning it.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:03 pm to IAmReality
The Heisman has always been a joke.
Some of the worst examples came from a long time ago:
Johnny Lattner, Notre Dame, 1953 - When Lattner claimed the Heisman, for example, he didn't lead the team in scoring, passing, rushing or receiving.
Paul Hornung, Notre Dame, 1956 - Most inexplicable about Hornung receiving the award was that Notre Dame was a putrid 2-8 during in '56, so his impact was minimal at best. Meanwhile, Jim Brown led Syracuse to a 7-2 record, notably scoring a record 43 points versus Colgate and winning Cotton Bowl co-MVP honors versus TCU.
John David Crow, Texas A&M, 1957 - Crow played in seven of the Aggies 11 games due to a hyper-extended knee he suffered in the season opener versus Maryland. After winning their first eight games, they lost their final three
Gary Beban, UCLA, 1967 - Ranked No. 1, UCLA suffered a narrow late-season loss in an unforgettable matchup against cross-town rival USC, which would go on to win that season's consensus national championship. In the process, Beban had a stellar performance before a national audience, completing 16-24 passes for 301 yards and two touchdowns. It was enough to earn him the Heisman despite the fact that OJ Simpson, who had a better season, scored the game-tying 64-yard touchdown in the same game.
Pat Sullivan, Auburn, 1971 - The '71 season was unfolding swimmingly for Sullivan during the first eight games. Auburn had dismantled almost all of its opponents and seemed to be on its way to an undefeated season. Against Bama, however, the tide turned dramatically as Auburn was the one that got dismantled, suffering a 31-7 loss in which Sullivan tossed just 121 yards and two interceptions. Propelled by gaudy stats he accumulated mostly against weak opponents, Sullivan won the Heisman anyway.
George Rogers, South Carolina, 1980 - A bruising back, George Rogers worked for every last yard as he led college football in rushing during the '80 season and guided the Gamecocks to an 8-4 record. Freshman Herschel Walker posted similar numbers for an undefeated national championship team but finished third in the voting
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Some of the worst examples came from a long time ago:
Johnny Lattner, Notre Dame, 1953 - When Lattner claimed the Heisman, for example, he didn't lead the team in scoring, passing, rushing or receiving.
Paul Hornung, Notre Dame, 1956 - Most inexplicable about Hornung receiving the award was that Notre Dame was a putrid 2-8 during in '56, so his impact was minimal at best. Meanwhile, Jim Brown led Syracuse to a 7-2 record, notably scoring a record 43 points versus Colgate and winning Cotton Bowl co-MVP honors versus TCU.
John David Crow, Texas A&M, 1957 - Crow played in seven of the Aggies 11 games due to a hyper-extended knee he suffered in the season opener versus Maryland. After winning their first eight games, they lost their final three
Gary Beban, UCLA, 1967 - Ranked No. 1, UCLA suffered a narrow late-season loss in an unforgettable matchup against cross-town rival USC, which would go on to win that season's consensus national championship. In the process, Beban had a stellar performance before a national audience, completing 16-24 passes for 301 yards and two touchdowns. It was enough to earn him the Heisman despite the fact that OJ Simpson, who had a better season, scored the game-tying 64-yard touchdown in the same game.
Pat Sullivan, Auburn, 1971 - The '71 season was unfolding swimmingly for Sullivan during the first eight games. Auburn had dismantled almost all of its opponents and seemed to be on its way to an undefeated season. Against Bama, however, the tide turned dramatically as Auburn was the one that got dismantled, suffering a 31-7 loss in which Sullivan tossed just 121 yards and two interceptions. Propelled by gaudy stats he accumulated mostly against weak opponents, Sullivan won the Heisman anyway.
George Rogers, South Carolina, 1980 - A bruising back, George Rogers worked for every last yard as he led college football in rushing during the '80 season and guided the Gamecocks to an 8-4 record. Freshman Herschel Walker posted similar numbers for an undefeated national championship team but finished third in the voting
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:05 pm to IAmReality
Take Johnny Football's from him & give it to Watson....problem solved.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:05 pm to Froman
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I can't remember the last time the best player actually won it.
1997 Charles Woodson
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:07 pm to Evolved Simian
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It will never get lower than Charles Woodson winning it.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:34 pm to IAmReality
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Is it time to just flush the Heisman down the toilet with the Noble Peace Prize as joke awards?
The Heisman has been a joke award for a very long time.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:40 pm to IAmReality
Sure it's fixable. Take it away from ESPN.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:41 pm to TH03
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Without him, they lose at least 2 games that year off the top of my head, LSU and Bama.
Without Manziel, the 2012 Aggies lose to Ole Miss, Louisiana Tech, and Alabama, turning a 10-2 season into a 7-5 one.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:50 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Pat Sullivan, Auburn, 1971 - The '71 season was unfolding swimmingly for Sullivan during the first eight games. Auburn had dismantled almost all of its opponents and seemed to be on its way to an undefeated season. Against Bama, however, the tide turned dramatically as Auburn was the one that got dismantled, suffering a 31-7 loss in which Sullivan tossed just 121 yards and two interceptions. Propelled by gaudy stats he accumulated mostly against weak opponents, Sullivan won the Heisman anyway.
Terry Beasley deserved it that year.
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