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re: Is it LSU's turn on the rotation to win the BCSCG?

Posted on 3/1/11 at 8:55 am to
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 8:55 am to
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I thought so. Thanks!


ha, honestly i just tune out the rivals chatter like gump vs barner, state vs rebs, and usually hogs vs tigers but this one had so much passion and hatred
Posted by hogwild210
Arlington, TX
Member since Jul 2010
374 posts
Posted on 3/1/11 at 8:55 am to
going from being ranked in the 80's in 2009 to the 30's in 2010= not giving two shits about fielding a defense?
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 8:58 am to
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I would hope so if I'm a pig fan - but I also wouldn't hold my breath until I was in the top half of the conference in any major defensive category

Our defense has improved every year Petrino has been at Arkansas. I don't know where we ranked in the SEC last year, but it was much improved, and will be even better in '11.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 8:59 am to
I like LSU for it this year.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:02 am to
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I think it will be even better in '11.


FTFY
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:07 am to
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I said "comparison", not "clone"


and the comparison doesn't work when you realize Petrino was 41-9 before Arkansas, took the team of a basketball school to a BCS bowl, and won it.

He's proved a lot more than Weis ever did.

quote:

I would hope so if I'm a pig fan - but I also wouldn't hold my breath until I was in the top half of the conference in any major defensive category


finished 5th in the SEC for regular season total defense last season. LINK

finished 4th in passing defense, 4th in receiving defense.
Posted by hogwild210
Arlington, TX
Member since Jul 2010
374 posts
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:10 am to
You might as well add that to every damn post on the Rant. This is a message board, for fans to give their opinions and talk about football. That was just dumb.
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:12 am to
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Mettenberger and McCarron will probably cost LSU and Bama a game or two over the course of the season with stupid mistakes


and that makes this a stupid post.....
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:13 am to
I stand corrected on all of the stats, but here is the complete season: LINK

5th in total D, 7th in scoring, 6th in pass, 10th in rushing
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:18 am to
so, top half of the league in 2 of the 4 stats, only 0.3 points per game from top half in 3 of the 4.

not too bad for an offensive coach who inherited a terrible D and "doesn't care about defense".

EDIT: and i should add that the defense is still a work in progress. the defense required a total rebuilding job when Petrino came in. as has been said, most fans expect to see the defense improve yet again in 2011.
This post was edited on 3/1/11 at 9:20 am
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:19 am to
It's better than I thought - I guess y'all just have the perception of having a shitty defense

But your offensive production won't be as high this year, so you'll need to keep improving on D
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:22 am to
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I guess y'all just have the perception of having a shitty defense


yeah, and probably for good reason. the first two seasons were absolutely horrible, and the 2010 game against Auburn didn't help matters at all (hell, hold them to even 30 pts and we'd be around 4th in scoring defense instead of 7th)

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But your offensive production won't be as high this year, so you'll need to keep improving on D


totally agree. but i really do think the defense will improve.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:23 am to
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You might as well add that to every damn post on the Rant. This is a message board, for fans to give their opinions and talk about football. That was just dumb.


While a lot of people do make stupid declaratory statements with nothing to back it up, it's not everyone. Arkansas fans are worse than most. Especially the "Arkansas WILL win the BCSCG in the next 3 years" nonsense.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:24 am to
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as has been said, most fans expect to see the defense improve yet again in 2011.


based on what exactly?
Posted by hogwild210
Arlington, TX
Member since Jul 2010
374 posts
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:26 am to
The fact that we've improved on defense every year under Petrino, and we return 10 starters on defense.
This post was edited on 3/1/11 at 9:27 am
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:27 am to
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based on what exactly?

Why, exactly, do you believe otherwise?
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:29 am to
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based on what exactly?


7 returning starters, no big losses of the ones gone (a few of the "starters" that left were splitting time, e.g. Broadway at CB, Crim at S, and should be easily replaced)
Players now in the system for 4 full years
Good D-Line that looks to get better
Better depth than we've ever had on that side of the ball
Lots of redshirt players

there is reason to be optimistic. i'm not saying we'll be top of the SEC or even top-3, but i do expect improvement.
This post was edited on 3/1/11 at 9:31 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:30 am to
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The fact that we've improved on defense every year under Petrino


but were still bottom half of the league in scoring defense.

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and we return 10 starters on defense.


this says you return 7

LINK
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:32 am to
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Why, exactly, do you believe otherwise?


Because while your defense isn't atrocious anymore, it's not exactly good and I see neither an influx of talent nor a change in staff/philosophy that would lead me to think there will be much improvement. Getting from awful to mediocre is a lot easier than getting from mediocre to good.


Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:33 am to
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but were still bottom half of the league in scoring defense.


that doesn't disprove his claim. Arkansas improved from 9th to 7th, shaving 3 ppg off the average.

also, Arkasnas was 0.3 ppg from being "top half". it's not like we were at the absolute bottom last year.

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