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re: Is Arkansas not hiring Jimmy Johnson dumbest move all time?
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:59 pm to Master Vader
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:59 pm to Master Vader
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Jimmy Johnson stepped into a great program in Miami and was lucking enough to arrive with Aikman in Dallas.
Cowboys would most likely have imploded with any other coach. Jimmy had experience with a bunch of big personalities in the locker room, and was able to tell Jerry Jones to eat a BoDs too. Why they haven't ben the same since Jimmy.
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:01 pm to BowlJackson
Is that the season that Georgia beat Texas in the Cotton Bowl.
Just goes to show how universities that claim these pre 1998 titles really do not have a leg to stand on
ND, Michigan and Nebraska
Just goes to show how universities that claim these pre 1998 titles really do not have a leg to stand on
ND, Michigan and Nebraska
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:01 pm to TOSOV
You're exactly right. Jimmy was a master psychologist.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:08 pm to Master Vader
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Is that the season that Georgia beat Texas in the Cotton Bowl.
Yes. Auburn had beaten Georgia but lost to Texas week 1 or 2 for our only loss.
Miami had gotten dick stomped by Florida 28-3 for their loss that year, and Auburn dick stomped Florida in return.
Auburn also had the #1 SOS, with I think 9 of our opponents playing in bowl games and the only one that lost was Texas.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:12 pm to Hussss
Add Pete Carroll to that Arkansas assistant list
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:14 pm to BowlJackson
If it was the current situation in college football it would have been
Nebraska/ Illinois
Texas/Auburn
In the college football playoffs. Just goes to show how much a popularity contest a lot of those AP national championships are
Wasn't that 1984 Orange Bowl a pretty famous bowl game. I see that score was close with Nebraska losing by one but didn't that game carry a big audience. I was born that year so I am not familiar
Nebraska/ Illinois
Texas/Auburn
In the college football playoffs. Just goes to show how much a popularity contest a lot of those AP national championships are
Wasn't that 1984 Orange Bowl a pretty famous bowl game. I see that score was close with Nebraska losing by one but didn't that game carry a big audience. I was born that year so I am not familiar
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:22 pm to Lacour
I honestly think the basketball is the sport you can look back and say not hiring that guy killed us because basketball is basically just recruiting with some coaching. Football, you have to have a scheme that plays to your conference, you have to culturally fit your region, you have to create pipelines with high school coaches. A lot goes into it and because a guy did it somewhere else doesn't mean he'd do it at your school. Imo
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:32 pm to Master Vader
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The entire Miami Dolphin situation made me wonder how good Jimmy really was.
He and Dan didn't get along. Johnson wanted to be a run first team and Dan didn't and they continued to butt heads over it. It was a strained relationship. There's stories of Dan constantly checking out of runs in favor of passing. Two big egos clashing. Johnson's drafted rb's didn't pan out either. Cecil Collins, John Avery, jj Johnson, Abdul-jabbar. The defenses under Johnson were typically at the top but the offenses never clicked.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:42 pm to Mizsioux
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basketball is basically just recruiting with some coaching.
Eh. The last two #1 draft picks were on teams that didn't make the postseason and Washington was freaking 9-22 (2-16) with Markelle Fultz
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:43 pm to Master Vader
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Wasn't that 1984 Orange Bowl a pretty famous bowl game. I see that score was close with Nebraska losing by one but didn't that game carry a big audience. I was born that year so I am not familiar
The 1984 Orange Bowl was among the most-watched college football games of all-time up to that point. Absolutely no one outside of Alabama and Michigan were watching the Sugar Bowl. I believe the game was a 23.5 share while Auburn's was 8.9. NBC was billing the game as the game that would decide the national championship. It was fun and exciting, with both teams combining for 61 points scored. Auburn and Michigan only combined for 16 total points, and only a single touchdown was scored the entire game.
If you want to stake a claim to #1 without playing and beating #1, you need to do something like Nebraska did in 1997. They drummed #3 Tennessee in the Orange Bowl by the score of 42-17 and ended up winning a share of the national championship as a result. The #3 team rarely wins a national title by beating #8 by a score of 9-7.
Down vote me all you want, but optics are everything in college football.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:08 pm to Mizsioux
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I honestly think the basketball is the sport you can look back and say not hiring that guy killed us because basketball is basically just recruiting with some coaching. Football, you have to have a scheme that plays
In that case, Stan Heath over Bill Self
Posted on 6/30/17 at 5:33 am to RoscoeHarper
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He would have left anyways. And he wasn't winning a NC with Arkansas
Pretty dumb statement on your part.
From 1960-1983 Arkansas won 73% of its games and won a National Championship and 5 Conference Championships in that time frame.
It wouldn't have mattered though. Frank Broyles had turned into such a ego maniac that he would have ran off Jimmy just like he did Lou Holtz and Ken Hatfield.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 5:34 am
Posted on 6/30/17 at 5:50 am to BamaNatureBoy
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Jimmy is better than any Coach in history Arkansas history.
That can be said for almost all programs.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:43 am to Hussss
Tommy Tubberville was also from Arkansas.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:22 am to Lacour
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Explain how it wasn't dumb?
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Umm well maybe because he'd hired his mistress into a job into the football department. Surely you have the mental capacity to understand the legal problems that would have caused had we kept him.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:29 am to Hawgeye
Arkansas never won an NC in that time frame.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:40 am to Hawgeye
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It wouldn't have mattered though. Frank Broyles had turned into such a ego maniac that he would have ran off Jimmy just like he did Lou Holtz and Ken Hatfield.
We really need a form for this where we can just type in the name of a great coach who wanted but did not get the Arkansas job. And another one for had the job and got run off by Broyles.
Broyles did amazing things for Arkansas athletics... unfortunately some were amazingly bad.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:43 am to Oklahomey
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Arkansas never won an NC in that time frame.
You mention this in every other post on this forum it seems like. Considering the lack of history between our two schools its odd but if it distracts you from the Big 12's ongoing implosion post away.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:58 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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Firing Petrino was pretty dumb.
Yes, but now Arkie U doesn't have to worry about their coach cheating with a better looking woman
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:11 am to TroyTider
Congrats to Assistant Coach U!
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