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Posted on 6/21/15 at 2:07 pm to JuiceTerry
Recruiting rules we're the same. However some programs were willing to cheat more to get players and more willing to sign too many players. Bama was #1 at both and it helped Bryant succeed.
As most know, Bryant promised Bobby Dodds he would vote rules to help curb the practice, but then went back on his word when he realized how much it would hurt Bama and GT left the sec.
Those aren't my words. That is documented fact from Dodd himself
As most know, Bryant promised Bobby Dodds he would vote rules to help curb the practice, but then went back on his word when he realized how much it would hurt Bama and GT left the sec.
Those aren't my words. That is documented fact from Dodd himself
Posted on 6/21/15 at 2:34 pm to Korin
quote:There was indeed a Southern champion and a trophy. Alabama won 4 Southern championships.
there was no SoCon champion in football until 1933?
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In the 1890’s, the small, scrawny Pickens had served as team manager for the first football teams at Alabama. Something about that experience got into his blood, as he was never far from the Alabama football program for the rest of his life.
Pinpointing Pickens’ exact career description is difficult. He is most often labeled a “promoter,” but that descriptor must have been far more broad in his day than it is today. He was the founder of the Blue-Grey All-Star game in Montgomery. He was the namesake of the Pickens Trophy (pictured above) given to the champions of the old Southern Conference. And he acted in a capacity for Alabama football that was like a combination of the duties of modern athletic directors, sport information directors and advertising/PR agencies.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 2:52 pm to jatebe
1924
1925
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Bama was also the 1926 and 1930 Southern Conference Champion.
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With the Southern Conference title coming down to the season-ending Thanksgiving Day
showdown against Georgia, the Crimson Tide took time off for a non-conference matchup against
the colorful Centre Colonels in Birmingham on November 15. Alabama must have been looking
ahead to the following week, because Centre completely shut down the Tide offense with five
first downs for the day, and the tremendous defensive effort produced a 17-0 win for the Colonels.
Ten days later all eyes in the Southern Conference were focused on Birmingham as Alabama
and Georgia met to, in all likelihood, settle the championship for 1924. The Bulldogs came in as
solid favorites, and a crowd estimated at 16,000 packed the ballpark where the game was played.
In the first quarter Alabama threatened early after Brown hauled in a pass and was finally
forced out of bounds at the Georgia 10 yard line. But the Bulldogs held and the Tide had to settle
for a 43-yard field goal by Compton. A short time later he added another field goal, and then a
touchdown pass to Caldwell gave Alabama a 13-0 lead at halftime.
After a scoreless third quarter, in the fourth stanza Alabama intercepted a pass to set up another
touchdown, and then three plays later Brown picked off another Georgia aerial and, behind some
good blocking, proceeded to ramble 65 yards to the touchdown Another interception set up a TD
run by Hubert to cap off the 20-point fourth quarter explosion that produced Alabama’s 33-0 win,
an overall record of 8-1-0, and the 1924 Southern Conference championship.
1925
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The second expected showdown of 1925 for Alabama came around the following weekend, as
Florida’s outstanding team traveled north to settle the Southern Conference title. But the
Crimson Tide defense completely throttled Gator star Edgar Jones, allowing Florida a total of
just 18 yards rushing, and Bama rolled to a convincing 34-0 win. Brown ran wild as the Gators
could not keep him contained around the ends, his longest run of the game covering 45 yards,
while Hubert fired two long touchdown passes to Johnny Mack. Alabama then closed out the
regular season, swamping Georgia by a score of 27-0 as Hubert led the attack with three
touchdowns. In a vote of 33 Southern sports editors after the season, Alabama was awarded the
Pickens Trophy as Southern Conference champions for the second straight season, with Tulane
finishing in second place, North Carolina in third and Georgia Tech in fourth.
LINK
Bama was also the 1926 and 1930 Southern Conference Champion.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 2:54 pm to jatebe
But but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but
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there was no SoCon champion in football until 1933
Posted on 6/21/15 at 2:54 pm to jatebe
That's nice and all, but what does any of that have to do with the fact that there was no official SoCon football champion until 1933? I'm well aware of the mythical claims and the Pickens Trophy.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 2:56 pm to jatebe
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In a vote of 33 Southern sports editors after the season,
Thanks for making my point for me.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 2:58 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Robert Neyland is number 1.
Bear is 2nd.
Bear is 2nd.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:27 pm to Korin
From the official Alabama Records Book, page 48 and 49 LINK....
I'm aware that there were no playoff championship at the time, but Southern Conference Championships were awarded. There also were not playoff championships for the SEC until 1992, but there were still SEC championships. Times and the way championships were awarded were different in different eras.
Just because several teams decided to break off from the Southern Conference and form a new conference, does not mean that the history changed and all the conference championships were eliminated. Sorry Florida didn't start winning until the 90's.
I'm aware that there were no playoff championship at the time, but Southern Conference Championships were awarded. There also were not playoff championships for the SEC until 1992, but there were still SEC championships. Times and the way championships were awarded were different in different eras.
Just because several teams decided to break off from the Southern Conference and form a new conference, does not mean that the history changed and all the conference championships were eliminated. Sorry Florida didn't start winning until the 90's.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:46 pm to jatebe
Have you actually looked at the SoCon media guide yet?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:57 pm to Korin
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Have you actually looked at the SoCon media guide yet?
I'm not gonna look at their butthurt media guide. They had champions before 1933, whether they choose to recognize them or omit them retroactively.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:58 pm to Vols&Shaft83
The "champions" before 1933 are mythical. Claimed and/or voted on. Not official. 
Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:01 pm to Korin
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The "champions" before 1933 are mythical. Claimed and/or voted on. Not official.
What difference does it make?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:04 pm to Korin
Bama has 4 spots in their walk of champions that use the SoCon logo. If these championships aren't real then I don't understand why the conference hasn't sent a C & D.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:04 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I mean, Alabama claims 1941 as a national title and it's listed in the records book. What difference does it make?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:04 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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ETA Neyland was overrated. Vol fans have a highly inflated opinion of that fossil. I lived in Knoxville for seven years so I know of what I speak
"People think I'm the greatest damn coach in the world", said Paul "Bear" Bryant, "but Neyland taught be everything I know."
The Bear coached against him seven times and never beat him. "I never beat him", he said,"but I learned a lot from playing him".
Coached 9 undefeated seasons
Was the first coach in college football to coach in all four of the major bowl games(rose, sugar, orange, cotton)
Lost only one home game in 21 years
Never coached a losing season
Never had a losing record to any team he faced more than once.
Still holds NCAA record for consecutive shutouts (17) and consecutive shutout quarters (71).
Not to mention the fact that he lost a third of his coaching career because he was serving the United States as a fricking general in WW1 and WW2.
Yea, really overated
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:05 pm to psk_Vol
The war stuff is nice and all but that has nothing do to with actual coaching.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:06 pm to bamawriter
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Bama has 4 spots in their walk of champions that use the SoCon logo. If these championships aren't real then I don't understand why the conference hasn't sent a C & D.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:08 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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lived in Knoxville for seven years so I know of what I speak.
I took a shite in Athens once, which makes me an expert on Vince Dooley
Posted on 6/21/15 at 4:09 pm to Korin
Neyland's service to our country is an example of why he was a great man.
It means jack in the discussion of great coaches.
It means jack in the discussion of great coaches.
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