re: If you had to choose right now, HC of Tennessee or be HC of USCe

Yeah we don't rely on Memphis for our recruits, don't need the kids out of Arkansas anyway.

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K, must be why 75% of SEC rosters since integration are African American.

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You missed the part of where if you place your support in an area where a large demographic group exists, provide support for player development, have an inbuilt culture/passion for the sport, and on and on you will produce a greater amount of talent from that demographic group.

People ask why does Jamaica produce so many sprinters? The answer is simple - the island is obsessed with it and every child wants to be a sprinter. In the Deep South where a larger proportion of black folks live kids are obsessed with football, entire towns, communities, and states revolve around it. So of course it's going to produce a high number of players - it's culture and community support for a sport not color.

There is simply no distinction among humans - that's science. With that in mind, the answer as to why there are more black players than white can't be because of color. It's not a genetic thing therefore it must be another factor or several factors (IOW, culture).

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Quality of HS football played in West TN is bad. East TN has the best teams and Mid TN has the best talent.

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I agree 100%.

thank you, i did forget them. tennessee is not a top 10, top 20

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You can put in your Maryville caveat all you want but if you do you misunderstand TN HS football. Quarles is responsible for the growth we're seeing across the state. He's the winningest coach in the last 10 years and he's helped build TN HS football. Programs in E. TN and Middle, TN will tell you Coach Quarles is the one man behind it all - his influence has been HUGE.

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Like I said, I've been absent from TN HS Football for roughly 10 years, so you could totally be right. The Maryville dynasty with Quarles was really getting revved up about the time I left (mid 2000's).

But I know from conversations with lots of different people at different, at least in terms of Upper East Tennessee, high school football is relatively the same as it was 10 years ago.

It's worse in Kingsport, but that has more to do with the drug culture that has wrecked what was a solid pipeline of players. Not to mention the fact that the new rules of scheduling and conferences mean that schools like Science Hill and DB are forced to play miserable local programs like Boone, Crockett, North, Volunteer, etc instead of going to Knoxville every weekend and playing Oak Ridge, Bearden, Farragut, Karns (turrible but still better than Volunteer), etc.

The area around Knoxville/Blount County (Maryville, Alcoa, West, Fulton, CAK, Catholic, Webb) is where things have really picked up. All of those schools have multiple state titles in the last 6 years I believe outside of West.

The North Counties aren't doing as well but those closer to Knoxville are starting to really grow because they're playing better competition. They're getting beat but their coaches and players are learning from the programs and coaches that have sprouted up.

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I'd rather Knoxville. You have a river to play on and Mountains not too far away.

Spurrier not winning an SEC Chmpionship is concerning for their future. Plus, the fact that UT has better facilities, more in-state talent, doesn't have to share that in-state talent now that Franklin is gone, and has better history. I'm rolling UT for the future. THere's literally no difference between UT and Bama as far as resources to win. I know UT is broke and all, but they went broke building facilities comparable to BAma and TAMU.

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Sometimes the ignorance of some of the people on this forum astounds me ... or rather, never ceases to amaze me.

Columbia is built between two rivers.

Columbia is a couple of hours from the mountains, right up I-26. Same mountains as Knoxville.

UT has a bigger stadium, not better facilities. To the contrary ... according to the recruits the facilities always seem about the same to them.

lulzing at UT having more in state talent. Once in awhile, yeah, but not ever year and what UT does have in state they have to fight four other SEC schools over. So yeah, they're still sharing it.

No ax to grind here with UT ... but you obviously didn't know shite about what you were talking about.

UT better history? Duh. Yeah. Although most recruits don't remember UT having a better history ... they were two years old the last time UT was that good. But they did grow-up seeing SCAR get better, have big wins, Hall of Fame coach.

And no difference between Bama and UT as far as resources to win? Again, I am lulzing.

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Hasn't DB produced some NFL defensive backs lately? I think with DB and Science Hill it's not just that they're not getting to play the grown up competition but they're so far away that when they've got great teams few outside the area know about it. I do remember when DB had really good teams though.

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Gerald Sensabaugh just retired, but he started for Jacksonville and Dallas for about 8 years. Originally went to ETSU but trasnferred to UNC when they shut down the program. Had a solid career.

His cousin, Cotey Sensabaugh, played at Clemson and is now a nickel back for the Titans. He is in his 2nd year I think.

And then Daniel Kilgore is the starting Center for the 49ers. He went to Appy State, was a 5th round pick around 4 years ago, was a utility lineman and they just extended him and made him the starter.

DB's just always had problems shaking the reputation that their success is due to where they are and lack of solid competition. And quite frankly, their performance in playoff games the last 25 years hasn't done much to prove that wrong. Recently they just haven't had very many good players.

However, both Devaun Swafford and Malik Foreman at Tennessee are DB guys. Sounds like Foreman had high expectations and hasn't really done much. Swafford seems to have exceeded expectations, but I'm not sure he's much more than a special teams player.