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Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:52 am to Moustache
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Yeah, they don't have those there.
Mountains, and doesn't TN have no state income tax? Seems like a VERY easy choice. Plus, I love Rocky Top, and they have the 2nd best dog in the SEC.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:59 am to VFL1800FPD
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VFL1800FPD
You can't dress a pig... It's still Neyland stadium.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:04 am to stat19
Id rather watch a game in Neyland than any other stadium in the world, and there's literally nothing anyone can say or do to convince me otherwise. So, its useless to argue that with me.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:04 am to ctiger69
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USC
Vol football is dead.
"Alabama football is dead."
- TD, circa 2006
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:06 am to Feral
If Drew Brees wouldn't have flunked the Dolphin's medical exam then that statement would have been correct.
What shooting star is Tenn going to catch?
What shooting star is Tenn going to catch?
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:09 am to cardboardboxer
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If Drew Brees wouldn't have flunked the Dolphin's medical exam then that statement would have been correct. What shooting star is Tenn going to catch?
You're suffering from an extreme case of fanboy myopia if you think Saban is the only coach who can wake up a program with great potential. Sumlin did it. Petrino did it at Arkansas. Saban did it at both LSU and Bama. Both Spurrier and Meyer did it at Florida, and Spurrier did it at USCe. Hell, Richt did it at Georgia.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:10 am to CountryVolFan
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There is 0 reason that they don't have a conference title under their belt by now
You mean besides the fact that we just started putting in the money required to win just 6-7 years ago? And has since led to a near 180 in our talent level and on field performance?
Sorry fellas, even if we have an average season this year the Gamecocks will be hanging around the top of the East for the foreseeable future.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:20 am to Feral
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Sumlin did it. Petrino did it at Arkansas, Spurrier did it at USCe, Hell, Richt did it at Georgia.
None of those coaches won a national titles at those programs and that is the only kind of "waking up" that can have long-term repercussions. A national title is something future coaches and recruits, even decades from then, can point back to. It can redefine a program's ceiling. An upswing can be lost, sometimes quickly as in Arky's case.
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Saban did it at both LSU and Bama.
True, but Saban might be the greatest college football coach of all time.
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Both Spurrier and Meyer did it at Florida
I think Spurrier is the example of what I am talking about. He won a title at UF, which changed the program forever and made it easier for Urban to win one.
Technically Tenn still has a little of that momentum, but it is fading each year.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:26 am to cardboardboxer
As much as y'all want it to be true, Tennessee football is not dead. The fact is, our worst period in our history is much much better than most others worst period in history. Football is cyclical. Look at bama in the 90s. You don't have 104255 fans at a rainy season opener against a crap team at a dead program.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:38 am to cardboardboxer
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Technically Tenn still has a little of that momentum, but it is fading each year.
This is what I'm talking about when I refer to fan myopia.
I'll never forget when my cousin -- an Alabama alumnus -- emailed me that "Alabama football is dead" after the Mike Price debacle, which forced them to hire Shula. Fran had left them high and dry for a lesser job, they were on probation, and they'd before he'd coached a game and had to settle on Shula.
Fans can't see the forest for the trees and understand that "momentum" is essentially a creation of the fans and media. All it takes is a good coach, a foundation, recruiting, and fan/monetary support. Auburn had no momentum before last year, and suddenly they were a few minutes from winning a BCS Title.
Again, Bama was a mess before Bryant and then again before Saban, Florida was nothing to write home about before Spurrier, LSU was an afterthought during DiNardo's tenure, and Georgia didn't win anything during the Goof and Donnan eras. Heck, Texas A&M was a joke as the were coming into the SEC after the dumpster fire left behind by Fran and Sherman.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 11:40 am
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:39 am to CockInYourEar
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Columbia >>> Athens
Columbia:
Lake Murray,
3 Rivers
Golfing everywhere
2 Districts for Night Life (Vista and 5 Points)
Industry for Jobs outside of the university
Central location, 1&1/2=2Hr from CLT, Augusta, Charleston/Beach, G'ville, Appalachia foothills
Large military base and community
We have a functional airport
Congaree National Park
Ample Parking
Athens:
Closest City/Attraction is Atlanta...Atlanta....
Clarke County PD HATE the football team
Need a job after college, gotta go move out of Athens.
Want to go fishing?
Want to fly into Athens? Next Stop Atlanta.
Want to go boating or fishing, try Pond Chapman or the Barely a Lake Reservoir.
Want to walk in the wood? Scull Shoals Experimental Forrest.
I would hope that you'd have all that stuff in the freaking state capitol. Comparing Columbia to Athens is apples and oranges, one is a college town, the other is as stated, the capitol.
And never, ever call what Columbia has in Vista and 5 Points "night life."
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:41 am to VFL1800FPD
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As much as y'all want it to be true, Tennessee football is not dead.
I agree completely 1998 isn't 1978. Yall are close enough to victory to still be considered legitimate, and that is all you need to get legitimate talent.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:43 am to Moustache
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True, but state loyalty tends to beat distance sometimes.
Not much loyalty involving football in the state of North Carolina, fortunately. Basketball is another story. SEC Network being located in Charlotte also helps.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:45 am to cardboardboxer
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Football is cyclical. Look at bama in the 90s.
We won 1 national title
2 SEC titles
5 SEC West Titles
horrible decade
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:50 am to StopRobot
He was alluding to the late 90's and early 2000's. Regardless, calling UT football "dead" is pretty funny. The program is dedicated to winning, has the fanbase, facilities, donors, etc. UT will be back in a year, two at most.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:54 am to Legendary0903
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He was alluding to the late 90's
Still won an SEC title during that time
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:56 am to Legendary0903
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He was alluding to the late 90's and early 2000's. Regardless, calling UT football "dead" is pretty funny. The program is dedicated to winning, has the fanbase, facilities, donors, etc. UT will be back in a year, two at most.
This.
Tennessee basically just went through their version of the Dubose-Fran-Shula era. They went to an SEC title game in 2007 (Dubose), seemed to make a decent hire who brought enthusiasm but then got left high and dry at a bad time (Fran), and had to make a settle hire that everyone knew would fail (Shula).
Will Butch Jones lead them to greatness or even work out? Who knows, but their program will be in a *much* better place when he leaves than it was when he got there, and calling UT football dead right now is as shortsighted as throwing dirt on Alabama in December of 2006.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:57 am to Moustache
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more in-state talent
Surely you jest
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:58 am to StopRobot
I understand that, but that time period was ugly overall for Bama fans. Declaring a traditionally great football program dead after 6 or 7 subpar years, and 2 dumbass head coaches, is just stupid.
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