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re: If MSU goes 9-3, is Mullen to UF a real possibility?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:45 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:45 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
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or Jake Spavital from A&M?
Shut your whore mouth!
He's 29, by the way.
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:50 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
Mullen ain't going no where.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:27 am to engie
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Can and will pay with anyone.
Texas, Ohio State, Texas A&M, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, and many others could beat you on the money front Engie dear.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 12:30 am
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:30 am to UAFanFromNOLA
He gone
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:43 am to BigD Ag
He is going to get a raise. He has almost at the end of every season. I think Florida goes bigger than mullen honestly
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:42 am to Slippery Slope
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The knee jerk reactions to Mullen on this board are making me bipolar.
fricking this. 2 weeks ago he was the punching bag of the rant and now he's Vince Lombardi reincarnated. The truth is not one motherfricke on this board knows what goes on in Jeremy Foley's office or any other AD's office. OM butthurt has fueled their hatred of him for 6 years now. They have started every negative rumor they can about him. Would anyone care to link ANY article anywhere that says boosters or insiders say he is too arrogant, pompous or ran recruits off? OM posters started in 09 with some out of context statement Tebow's dad made about Mullen working on Tebow's throwing mechanics in a Florida paper. Since then they have alluded to or "heard from an insider" that he was top of the list for every coaching job from here to Timbuktu only to be denied when the "big boosters" couldn't stand him.
This is what I KNOW. We got more money than we have ever had in the history of MS State Athletics and we won't get outbid by anyone whose not paying Saban money IF we want to keep him. I know Mullen has been given everything he has publically asked for. What I don't know is what his true intentions are but he is living like a king in Mississippi and has proved he can build a decent program.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 1:58 am
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:55 am to MaroonNation
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The truth is not one motherfricket on this board knows what goes on in Jeremy Foley's office
Don't worry about Foley. He will end up hiring another coordinator type to be the head coach at UF and we will start the coaching search again in another 3 or 4 years.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:58 am to UAFanFromNOLA
Only as a last result, after all the bigger coaches turn them down. He would an upgrade from WM but he wouldn't create near the excitement you want from a new hire unless he blows up this year and won the Sec and made the playoff.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 2:03 am
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:59 am to UAFanFromNOLA
Wow. One win over a ranked team in...how many tries? and people are thinking he'll be snatched up by one of the premiere programs in the country if he makes it to 9 wins?
Mullens is a good coach. Nobody who understands CFB should doubt that. But there's literally no evidence that he's an elite coach, and Florida is going to want an elite one after the current debacle. Of course, Boom could win every game from here on out and it'd would suddenly become a moot hypothetical, but if he is on the way out, Mullens would have to be pretty far down on UF's wishlist. He hasn't been proven to be a world-class recruiter. He runs an offensive scheme that's halfway between "Arkansas" and "curling" in terms of excitement, and there's no evidence that he'd actually be any more successful than Boom. He's likely to be less so, in fact, since he's hardly the sort to convince Florida talent to choose UF over FSU, Georgia, Auburn, or Bama based on the merits of his schemes.
Mullen is exactly where he belongs, and that's a good thing. Lots of people never find their place in the world, and Mullens has a really nice thing going at MSU. Nobody has really satisfactorily sold the idea that Mullens to UF would be anything other than a bad fit at best and a disaster for all parties involved at worst.
Edit: None of this is to say I wouldn't have been pleased had he replaced Franklin, of course. But we're no Florida.
Mullens is a good coach. Nobody who understands CFB should doubt that. But there's literally no evidence that he's an elite coach, and Florida is going to want an elite one after the current debacle. Of course, Boom could win every game from here on out and it'd would suddenly become a moot hypothetical, but if he is on the way out, Mullens would have to be pretty far down on UF's wishlist. He hasn't been proven to be a world-class recruiter. He runs an offensive scheme that's halfway between "Arkansas" and "curling" in terms of excitement, and there's no evidence that he'd actually be any more successful than Boom. He's likely to be less so, in fact, since he's hardly the sort to convince Florida talent to choose UF over FSU, Georgia, Auburn, or Bama based on the merits of his schemes.
Mullen is exactly where he belongs, and that's a good thing. Lots of people never find their place in the world, and Mullens has a really nice thing going at MSU. Nobody has really satisfactorily sold the idea that Mullens to UF would be anything other than a bad fit at best and a disaster for all parties involved at worst.
Edit: None of this is to say I wouldn't have been pleased had he replaced Franklin, of course. But we're no Florida.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 2:02 am
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:02 am to Rabern57
you're a dense one too. If I was Foley he would be THE ONLY candidate for the job at Florida based on the success he and Mayer had when he was OC. And if he left we wouldn't have to settle for some OC type either as we have raised the level of the program to where it deserves a good established coach. There are coaches all over this country that would love to coach in the SEC. We would have a much easier time finding a replacement for him as the school who would hire Mullen away would have convincing him to leave. This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 2:04 am
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:07 am to MaroonNation
And you would be one of those fired ADs for thinking a coach will be great because who he coached under. DM is no where near the level of UM. Just like WM is no Saban.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:08 am to randomways
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But there's literally no evidence that he's an elite coach
At UF he would have a better recruiting base and would be in the weaker division in the East which would put him in the SECCG more years then not and if he could win half of the SECCG's he gets to, it could put him in elite status. Like I said though, Foley will hire some "elite coordinator" and this will be a non issue for MSU fans.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:15 am to olemc999
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At UF he would have a better recruiting base and would be in the weaker division in the East which would put him in the SECCG more years then not and if he could win half of the SECCG's he gets to, it could put him in elite status. Like I said though, Foley will hire some "elite coordinator" and this will be a non issue for MSU fans.
He wouldn't have any advantages that Muschamp doesn't have, though, and whatever else you can say about Muschamp, he does recruit very well and holds his own reasonably well against the usual suspects of poachers. There's no guarantee Mullens would be as good at it. The weaker division is the same regardless of the coach, and it's cyclical anyway...there's no reason to suppose that the East won't return to the top again in the not-too-distant future.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:15 am to Rabern57
Well Foley's current line of thinking has worked out exceptionally.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:25 am to MaroonNation
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Well Foley's current line of thinking has worked out exceptionally.
It did...for a year. People tend to forget that Muschamp has only been at UF for 3 seasons, not counting this one. The first was a 7-6 rebuilding season, because Meyer checked out early and left the program in shambles. The second, 11-2, was better than any year MSU has ever had. They were literally 8 points away from vying for the SEC title and, had they won (they wouldn't have, granted) the BCSNC. The third was one of the most injury-plagued teams in recent CFB memory. And now we're here, with an ugly loss to Bama. WM probably isn't the answer, but I doubt Mullens would be either. At the very least, the rumblings in Florida would likely be in favor of a coach like Spurrier or Meyer, i.e. the good ol' days of high-powered offenses.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:25 am to randomways
dude. The east isn't coming back. 6 of 7 teams are ranked with the 7th hanging right in the 26-30 area. One more win for them and it's all 7. 7 teams in the west are in a arms race with Alabama. There's no Bama in the east. Alabama's success has forced every team in their division to be better. Florida has lost its place as most important school in their own damn state. It's not cyclical unless we are talking Haley's comet timeframes. Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:25 am to randomways
At this point I just hope we dont hire another coordinator to do some on the job learning. Thats the advantage that Mullen has over Muschamp. Mullen will have SEC head coaching experience for 6 years before coming to UF (in this hypothetical scenario which will not happen). That can not be understated. I dont care how good a coordinator has been their first head coaching gig should not be UF. At this point I would be cool with hiring whatever coach wins the FCS National Championship this year and hope he turns into our version of Jim Tressel.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:30 am to olemc999
I'm pretty sure all coaches now have the famous "non compete" clause in their contracts too which would make it impossible for a coach at one SEC school to leave for another sEC school without putting a non conference school in between them.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:33 am to MaroonNation
Yep most likely.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:33 am to MaroonNation
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dude. The east isn't coming back. 6 of 7 teams are ranked with the 7th hanging right in the 26-30 area. One more win for them and it's all 7. 7 teams in the west are in a arms race with Alabama. There's no Bama in the east. Alabama's success has forced every team in their division to be better. Florida has lost its place as most important school in their own damn state. It's not cyclical unless we are talking Haley's comet timeframes.
With that analysis, sure. Of course, two of the three most talent-rich traditional SEC (i.e. not Texas) states are in the East. Actually, the top two, with Louisiana coming in 3rd. And it's entirely possible you're right. But your argument itself is essentially meaningless. Bama is where they are because of Saban, who won't be there forever. Even Bama can tumble with the wrong coach. That's been definitively proven. Ditto LSU and Auburn. I don't know how old you are, but Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida were all powers when Bama, LSU, and Auburn were struggling. For a decade or more, it looked like UT and UF would never be toppled from their perches. Now it looks like Bama and LSU (and, well, look what y'all did to LSU, and what OM did to them last season.) Trust me, the odds are very, very good that things will cycle again. And than again, back to the West. And so on. Haley's comet doesn't come around every single decade or more, you know. The power balance, however, has shifted that often...or more. You do realize Florida won two titles less than a decade ago, right?
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 2:35 am
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