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re: If Mizzou wins the East with a head coach who has no head coaching experience
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:13 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:13 pm to DawgsLife
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You MAY gain everybody's respect, but it will take time and you will have to show consistent success. No team will ever go into a conference and gain instant respect after a couple of years.
This is probably the most accurate and true statement I've seen regarding Missouri coming into the league. Respect (especially in the SEC) is not going to be earned in a couple of seasons.
Buckle the helmets and let's play football against each other for 100 years; then you can try to create a rivalry. Until you've proven your success over time you won't be received by some of the most passionate fans in ANY conference of any college sport.
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Posted on 7/8/16 at 2:03 pm to navynuke
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point is that not many teams win their division without catching some teams when they are down.
True but to not beat any good teams in 4 seasons is a bad thing.
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 7/8/16 at 2:06 pm to DawgsLife
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they had not beaten a team ranked higher than #12. At the time they beat Georgia we were #7, so I stand by my statement that they have beaten a team ranked higher than #12.
Where you finish matters more, and Uga finished Unranked.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 2:07 pm to DawgsLife
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nobody has ever beaten the #1 ranked team, because once that team was beaten, they were not ranked #1.
Lsu beat the #1 team in 2011. Va tech beat the #1 team in 2014. U.K. And ark beat the #1 team in 2007. Ole miss beat the number 1 team in 2008 and 2015. Uf beat the number 1 team in 2003.
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 7/8/16 at 4:09 pm to DawgsLife
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Besides Alabama in 2011 name 3. Since "many" have had this done it shouldn't be difficult for you. Just name 3. (Besides Alabama in 2011) I'll be waiting.
You cannot honestly be this retarded. Bama LAST YEAR,Bama 2012,LSU 2007,Florida 2008
I can on and on but you really
aren't worth the time and effort.
Tell ya what,there's a whole world out there in the interwebs that can give a complete history about CFB...do a little research and get back to me.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 4:22 pm to RD Dawg
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You cannot honestly be this retarded.
Apparently I am. Let's take a look at the teams you gave me.
Alabama was #2 when they got beat last year
Florida was #4 in 2008 when they lost
So you were wrong on those two. Alabama in 2012 was #1 when they got beat and LSU in 2007 was #1 when they got beat. So, you owe me one. (And by the way...LSU lost two games that yer, so it was a miracle they even played for the National Championship....but they did.
So, you owe me another team to meet my request of three since there are "many" examples of #1 teams getting beaten during the regular season and going on to win the NC. I think you would have to agree that it not only is NOT a regular occurrence, but it is an unusual one. It DOES happen, but there certainly are not "many" examples.
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Kudos for all the research you did, though. It couldn't have been easy to find all of that!
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 7/8/16 at 4:30 pm to djsdawg
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Va tech beat the #1 team in 2014.
Actually Ohio State was #8 when Virginia Tech beat them in 2014.
I already gave him Alabama 2011, and admitted that 2007 LSU did it.
Actually Florida in 2003 did not do it, either. Are you talking about Miami? they were actually #3 when Florida beat them....or Georgia? We were #4 when they beat us.
I guess my point, was that it is not common for a team to be rated #1...get beat, then go on to become #1. he said there were many examples of it happening, and i called him on it. There actually might be more than we are coming up with, but it certainly isn't a common occurrence as he insinuated.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 4:32 pm to RD Dawg
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You cannot honestly be this retarded.
Dude. Do you have any idea how insulting you are? You can carry on a conversation without calling people names and acting like you are. It doesn't help your argument a bit. Chill out a bit.
relax!Posted on 7/8/16 at 4:34 pm to djsdawg
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Where you finish matters more, and Uga finished Unranked.
I agree 100%. But if you beat a team that is ranked #12, then you beat a 12th ranked team, right?
Posted on 7/8/16 at 4:35 pm to DawgsLife
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So, you owe me another team to meet my request of three since there are "many" examples of #1 teams getting beaten during the regular season and going on to win the NC. I think you would have to agree that it not only is NOT a regular occurrence, but it is an unusual one. It DOES happen, but there certainly are not "many" examples.
Honesty give up. SEE DS Dawg above for those examples.I'm talking about schools that ENDED up #1 losing during the regular season.Why are you obsessed with rankings during the season.THEY MEAN NOTHING.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 4:38 pm to DawgsLife
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I agree 100%. But if you beat a team that is ranked #12, then you beat a 12th ranked team, right?
Only if they finished 12th.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 4:39 pm to mizzoukills
There is one big issue with your hopes. Missouri isn't winning much next year so there is that.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 4:55 pm to djsdawg
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Only if they finished 12th.
Ok. As long as you are consistent, I can live with that. I just know most people I know...when their team plays a #1 team and beat them, they say they beat the #1 team in the country. When people were giving UGA such crap about a terrible record verses Top 10 teams they were counting teams in the record that were 10 or better at the time of the game.
However, if you are consistent and say the only ranking that should be considered is the one a team finishes with...I can accept that and respect it.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 4:58 pm to RD Dawg
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Honesty give up. SEE DS Dawg above for those examples.
nope. he gave the same ones you did, or the team was not #1 when they were beaten. You owe me one.
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I'm talking about schools that ENDED up #1 losing during the regular season.
That happens all the time. And if that is what you were talking about, then you could have come up with teams a whole lot easier than what you did. So, I think you understood what we were doing, but saw that it is not as common as you thought.
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Why are you obsessed with rankings during the season.THEY MEAN NOTHING.
We will simply have to agree to disagree, then.
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 7/8/16 at 5:10 pm to DawgsLife
Man, DawgsLife, you're gonna melt when Mizzou beats Jawja this year... 
Posted on 7/8/16 at 5:18 pm to mizzoukills
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Man, DawgsLife, you're gonna melt when Mizzou beats Jawja this year...
Why would I? I mean any more than normal? Mizzou has a pretty good team. You have an excellent defense. If you can get any kind of offense you should have a pretty good team and could beat a lot of teams. I just think Tennessee has the most talent and should be the favorite. Then comes Florida then, IMO, us. I would give Mizzou the next spot, probably.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 6:10 pm to djsdawg
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True but to not beat any good teams in 4 seasons is a bad thing.
The final SOS rankings suggest that MU beat good teams along the way in both 2013 and 2014.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 7:39 pm to navynuke
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The final SOS rankings suggest that MU beat good teams along the way in both 2013 and 2014.
You are partially correct as Mizzou beat 3 ranked teams in 2013, but zero ranked teams in 2014.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:56 pm to djsdawg
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You are partially correct as Mizzou beat 3 ranked teams in 2013, but zero ranked teams in 2014.
You don't understand how algorithms work, do you?
Posted on 7/8/16 at 10:00 pm to navynuke
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You don't understand how algorithms work, do you?
I understand which teams are ranked and which ones are not ranked. Its that simple.
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