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re: If Marshall goes to Bama, I want Dave Hart fired

Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:19 pm to
Hart suked while he was at Mizzou
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:25 pm to
I was living in Hattiesburg when UT hired Tyndall. All the locals with whom I spoke seemed to know about the crap at Southern, many of them even predicted Tennessee would regret the hire sooner rather than later.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 11:29 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

Hart suked while he was at Mizzou




Not the same Hart.
Posted by Roses of Crimson
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 7:29 am to
re: If Marshall goes to Bama, I want Dave Hart fired (Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:21 pm to reggierayreb)
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If it makes you feel any better, Hart was one of the geniuses that recommended we hire Grant last time out. Mal asked CM Newton and Hart who he should hire. Both agreed on Grant. Thanks guys!!


CM is a great man but has way too much pull with UA's basketball program and his decisions are questionable at best.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 7:41 am to
quote:

Schools like Tennessee and Mizzou lowballed Marshall last season according to them. UCLA tried to hire him too early.


We didn't lowball him. We offered high $3s plus incentives.
Posted by Scoreboard
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:04 am to
logjamming

And you root for?
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:57 am to
The roster Grant is leaving behind is a helluva lot more attractive than the one Cuonzo did, though.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:51 am to
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Gee, the guy was once black listed from coaching because of shady recruiting tactics and indiscretions with the NCAA. Then he broke NCAA rules. Lied about them to investigators and Tennessee. Told a recruit's father to lie about it. And got slapped with a three year "show-cause". I can only imagine why Hart wasn't beating down his door to rehire him.


Which is probably why the OP said OK. Interesting shite if you put everything into context.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:59 am to
Didn't this guy hire Jones?

Doesn't the explosive success of that hire get him a free pass in all sports?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:12 pm to
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Didn't this guy hire Jones?

Doesn't the explosive success of that hire get him a free pass in all sports?




Oh if Butch Jones coaches the talent he's brought in, and Tennessee becomes what it was in the late 90s early 2000s, than Hart is safe no matter how bad other sports are.


Football runs the show at Tennessee, and that will never change.
Posted by STLhog
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Football runs the show at Tennessee, and that will never change.



And someone has to be down in the SEC when it comes to basketball.

Can't be having errbody be legit and all.

Although I do expect one/two of LSU, A&M and MSU to fail miserably in their latest attempt to be relevant in that arena.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

the John Gruden tards


Gruden was probably the most delusional coaching speculation in SEC history. It sure was fun to watch it come apart on the vol boards with that insider dude who kept claiming, I mean right up till Jones presser, that Gruden was a done deal.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

If it makes you feel any better, Hart was one of the geniuses that recommended we hire Grant last time out. Mal asked CM Newton and Hart who he should hire. Both agreed on Grant. Thanks guys!!



In fairness to Hart and CM, Grant was a "home run, can't miss hire" as stated by everyone.
Posted by General13
Mobile
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:24 pm to
There's no telling what the offer he got from Tennessee was vs what Alabamas is or going to be. Besides, timing is essential to coaching hires. Coaches can change their mind from year to year. Doesn't matter where the university is located.

If it was the same year and both were courting the same coach then you would have a better basis for comparison. Also, both schools might not be working with the same bottom line. Alabama is one more bad hire away from becoming largely irrelevant in hoops. Tenn is in much better position. Puts Alabama in a position to overspend to get the best available.
Posted by rootisback
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:27 pm to
Vols are so 90s
Posted by Dore5674
Nashville
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 2:04 pm to
Greg Marshall is not taking the Bama job so the discussion is really irrelevant. However, Bama right now is a much better job to inherit than TN was at the time of Cuonzo's departure. UTs basketball facilities are superior but the roster situation that Tyndall walked into was horrendous & he did a nice job coaching them up but, if it wasn't for Richardson (best guard in the SEC this season) they would have struggled to reach double digit wins.

Bama has a roster situation that is much better comparably.

Losing - Randolph, Cooper

Returning - Tarrant, Hale, Obasahan, Kessens, Taylor, Norris (think he's going to end up being a nice player), Coleman
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 2:19 pm to
I'm not complaining about the coaching job that Tyndall has done, Vol fans understood that this was going to be a tough year.

The complaint is that hiring Tyndall has put us in a position to endure at least 2-3 more seasons that will be even worse than this one.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 2:19 pm to
Keep in mind Tyndall also "inherited" Thompson (transferred to UVA), Davis (UTEP), Cofer (FSU), Austin (Xavier) and Chievous (Hampton).
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 2:23 pm to
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He could not have possibly fricked this up more.



Or you guys could fire Tyndall right fricking now and make a run at Marshall. Maybe Tenn would be more attractive since it's a bball school and not a football school like Bama.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 2:39 pm to
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Greg Marshall is not taking the Bama job so the discussion is really irrelevant.
Quite honestly I'm ready for this Marshall discussion to end. The dude has a good/great situation at WSU and I frankly don't feel like he's worth anywhere near $4mill/yr. JMO
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