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re: I wonder did Kirby turn down auburn?

Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:44 pm to
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I expect that the search committee liked both Smart and Malzahn and the tie breaker for Gus was their familiarity with him. Kirby probably didn't get offered.


Very logical conclusion. I agree.
Posted by TideSatchel
Member since Nov 2011
2581 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:46 pm to
Only there are confirmed reports otherwise, but I guess if tin foil hats are your thing
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:50 pm to
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confirmed reports otherwise


bullshite bullshite bullshite is all I hear.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:59 pm to
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Kirby wanted complete control and the ability to build his own staff from the ground up

This is true. Not simply coaches, but player development personnel, recruiting coordinators, trainers, etc. AU has several people who have been in the Ath Dept for years and this would have meant a ton of people who are AU "lifers" losing their jobs. AU wasn't too keen on that.

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Auburn folks asked that he keep a couple of the assistants since they had multi-year deals or something like that

Untrue. No assistant coaches on that staff are "must keeps" for any reason. Kirby could have (and Gus will) replaced any one on the coaching staff that he wanted to.

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He also said that Kirby wanted more money than what was offered.

Was offered $2.3M. I think he would have taken $2.5M, and probably would have taken the $2.3M, but the true deal breakers (on both sides) were:

1)the desire to learn more about the NCAA investigaton b/c he wanted to know exactly what he was getting into (good, bad, or indifferent) and
2) the opportunity for full hiring/firing authority at every position in the football operations department - coaches, support, and otherwise.

The whole "I want to coach in the BCSNCG" was not a deal breaker for Kirby. It was a piece to negotiate. He would have given that up for more $$ and/or the two points listed above.

Both parties - mutually, i believe - chose to go in different directions. Kirby will get a raise and reassurances and AU will get an HC they are very familiar and comfortable with.

TL:DR

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

This is true. Not simply coaches, but player development personnel, recruiting coordinators, trainers, etc. AU has several people who have been in the Ath Dept for years and this would have meant a ton of people who are AU "lifers" losing their jobs. AU wasn't too keen on that.


I can see this being an issue on both sides and dont blame either for not backing down on this point
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 4:24 pm to
i imagine the look/see into the ncaa stuff was the sticking point
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91644 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

This is true. Not simply coaches, but player development personnel, recruiting coordinators, trainers, etc. AU has several people who have been in the Ath Dept for years and this would have meant a ton of people who are AU "lifers" losing their jobs. AU wasn't too keen on that.
Here lies the problem. We're to loyal to certain individuals.
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