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re: I understand Mariota's numbers are crazy but Amari Cooper should win the heisman
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:03 am to Supernova1719
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:03 am to Supernova1719
No he shouldn't. Mariota accounted for 53 touchdowns, more than 106 FBS schools...That is insane
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:04 am to Tiger Live2
Mariota is the most deserving of the award in years actually and he's put up absurd numbers against decent competition.
Cooper's going to get drafted before him though so I'm sure that's a nice consolation prize.
Cooper's going to get drafted before him though so I'm sure that's a nice consolation prize.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:10 am to Supernova1719
Heisman 
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:13 am to JB Bama
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Cooper's going to get drafted before him though so I'm sure that's a nice consolation prize.
Really? Because everyone is saying the Bucs will take Mariota at #1. Can't get much higher than #1.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 9:15 am
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:14 am to pabgolf
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Mariota accounted for 53 touchdowns
They gave Tebow the Heisman for scoring 55 TDs, and he played on a 3-loss team (going into the vote).
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:19 am to gameovergt
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Take away Amari and Bama could still win.
Without Coop, Bama would not be sitting here today with our 24th SEC Championship ~ we wouldn't be ranked #1 in the country and getting ready to play in the first ever College Football Playoff. Coop has been key to the success of this season.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:51 am to gameovergt
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Take away Amari and Bama could still win. Would Oregon but the #2 see without MM?
The Heisman isn't an MVP award.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:58 am to Supernova1719
No way Mariota doesn't win this...thought Gordon had a small chance before OSU blew Wiscy up...Coop might have a long shot at 2nd, but I'm still guessin' he finishes 3rd, with Mariota winning by a large margin...and he'll be a deserving winner at that...
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:03 am to pvilleguru
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The Heisman isn't an MVP award.
that's exactly what it is actually
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:07 am to Supernova1719
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I understand Mariota's numbers are crazy
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38 TD to 2 INT
I don't think you actually understand
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:08 am to pvilleguru
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The Heisman isn't an MVP award.
MVP of the country is the same thing as the ebst player in the country
and Ingram winning it proved the MVP role weighs on voters
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:10 am to cas4t
Cooper doesn't have that Heisman moment that is needed for Sports Center. That is what College Football has become today.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:11 am to Irons Puppet
You don't play QB, go 38 and 2, make the playoff, and not win the heisman
i don't understand all the fuss
i don't understand all the fuss
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:12 am to lsufball19
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The Heisman isn't an MVP award.
that's exactly what it is actually
This is a common misperception. The Heisman is awarded to the "most outstanding" player. Not the most valuable. Not the most productive. Not the most talented. The most outstanding.
The problem, of course, is that a player could be "outstanding" (i.e., literally stand out) for any number of reasons, including those I listed above.
In short, the Heisman voters can use whatever criteria they want because their sole criterion means nothing in particular.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:12 am to Irons Puppet
to be fair Cooper had many Heisman moments vs Auburn
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:12 am to TxTiger82
Heisman is basically a QB award that on the slightest of occasions will go to a RB.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:13 am to TxTiger82
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This is a common misperception. The Heisman is awarded to the "most outstanding" player. Not the most valuable. Not the most productive. Not the most talented. The most outstanding.
i think you're getting way too caught up in semantics. it's all the same thing. at the end of the day, the criteria for the heisman is the same as any other sports league that gives an award to the best player in the league that season
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:14 am to bamafan1001
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Heisman is basically a QB award that on the slightest of occasions will go to a RB.
In practice, I agree with you. The RBs either have to put up incredible numbers, or it has to be a down year.
WRs have to do something else, usually on special teams. Defensive nominations are just a nod to great players in a down year.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:14 am to bamafan1001
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Heisman is basically a QB award that on the slightest of occasions will go to a RB.
so basically like the AP NFL Offensive MVP award
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:15 am to lsufball19
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i think you're getting way too caught up in semantics.
It matters because this is how the Heisman voters are told to think about it. They are not voting for an MVP. They are voting for the player that stands out to them.
Those are different things. One means something very specific. The other could mean almost anything.
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