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re: I guess it's Mizzou's week coming up. Unflattering OTL out

Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15229 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:52 pm to
Hey I'm all for opening shite up and finding the truth out on any rapes case including this one if it needs to be done. I have zero tolerance for shite like this. Is that fricking clear enough for ya??
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5892 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

02.2010 : Assault date
04.2010 : TEAM DOCTORS start filling prescriptions for sedatives and anti depressants
07.2010 : starts counseling at STUDENT Health Center (part of MU)
08.2010 : AD notified of April hospitalization


1. Never officially reported
2. History of mental health dating back to high school
3. HIPPA means health providers can't release anything
4. Not sure what your point is for a mental treatment.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:52 pm to
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Here's a suggestion. Instead of trying to protect the reputation of your university, push for full accountability and then go volunteer a few hours with an organization like RAINN.

This would come off as more genuine if you weren't trolling a page ago.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:53 pm to
My goodness.

Healthcare workers are NOT university officials.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5892 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Is that fricking clear enough for ya??


The dumb frick piggie is too busy shifting from trolling to climbing up on his fictional high horse. So I doubt he understands.
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
4669 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:57 pm to
It's not bullshite depending on how narrowly or broadly you define sexual assault..


The rate is about 20 to 25% in the United States under the narrow definitions. Worldwide it's about 35% under the narrow definitions.

If you correct for under reporting the statistics skew higher, particularly among males.



LINK /

just one example...

Face it, this shite is a gigantic problem that's primarily swept under the rug.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27422 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:59 pm to
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It's not bullshite
quote:

rate is about 20 to 25% in the United States
quote:

Worldwide it's about 35%
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15229 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:03 pm to
That's all fine and shite if you truly care about this subject and can cite stats with links but...

quote:

Mizzou will probably use it as a recruiting tool. Rape whoever you want, we don't care! Also, Tigers are just shitty people


You lose credibility from the get go, ya imbecile.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54630 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Stop digging. You've reached bedrock.


Spend some time around health care folks and you are a total tool if you think they can not read between the lines. I have dealt with the 3 day involuntary and it is not used lightly in most states. Because the threshold has to be strong enough to pass judicial review that statement alone tells me volumes about the severity of care required and the information collected to make said argument.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27422 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:08 pm to
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Cheese Grits


Your motive for being here is transparent. Enjoy your trolling.

Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15512 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:09 pm to
Frick. It was already our week this week
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:10 pm to
I didn't realize I was responding to one of your posts. My bad. Wouldn't have bothered.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:27 pm to
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Face it, this shite is a gigantic problem that's primarily swept under the rug.

I agre with you here. It's a terrible problem. But this young lady did not report it to anyone in a position to help her from a legal standpoint.

Medical personnel, when told of a sexual assault, should obviously ask if it was reported, or if she wants to report it. Especially a counselor. I believe she said no, and in fact did not want to pursue it. She wasn't sure she could handle it, emotionally. Keep in mind, this young lady was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, and she had at least 1 suicide attempt before she came to college. Alcohol impaired her memory from the night in question, and she wasn't sure how many men were involved. I'm not surprised she chose not to pursue it - it sounds as if she didn't even tell her parents.

I don't doubt that she was assaulted. But since she didn't report it and pursue it, what was Mizzou to do? For that reason, this is a hack job by ESPN.

I wish she had pursued it. Rapists need to rot in the deep pits of hell. But she didn't, and now an investigation is worthless. It would be he said - she said at best, and she is no longer with us to testify. Tragic.

Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:27 pm to
This whole situation seems like weak reporting hoping for a reaction. There is a lot of assuming and making of a downright flawed conclusions. IF a non-medical personnel person heard of this, they should have reported it. There are just too many holes to really come to a conclusion of someone was in the wrong or not.

I will say that the number of athletes on anti-depressants is likely high enough that just having her on a prescription for it is not nearly enough to prompt questioning. I sincerely hope that no one mishandled this girl's situation intentionally. I also hope a criminal investigation is done to determine if she was raped and to correctly punished any involved if she was.
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15229 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:27 pm to
Yep ole Grits has seen it all, met everyone worth meeting, and done everything imaginable. The world is her oyster.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:31 pm to
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I also hope a criminal investigation is done to determine if she was raped and to correctly punished any involved if she was.

I'd love to see anyone who assaulted her punished. But at this point, 4 years after the fact, 2 years after her death, when no report was made or rape kit done, and the alleged video lost...how would they even begin to develop a case? One player, Gil Moye, told ESPN he had consensual sex with her and that nothing else happened. I believe she admitted to having sex with Gil. How would they prove anything else under the circumstances?
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 3:33 pm
Posted by MIZ_STL
ABQ
Member since Sep 2013
1336 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:34 pm to
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Yep ole Grits has seen it all, met everyone worth meeting, and done everything imaginable. The world is her oyster.
The real Jack of all Trades, a woman of the people, and a blessing to those with whom she comes in contact. Not to mention, fair and balanced. Neutral, logical, and reasonable above all others. Her esteem is known the world over, from team board to team board.

And, she can read in between the lines of a timeline, the timeline within the timeline, if you will.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 3:37 pm
Posted by TigerMattSTL
O'Fallon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1105 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:35 pm to
It is clear that some folks haven't read the facts of the case.

Even if she reports rape to the MU medical staff, they can't do shite under Federal Law. If they broke HIPPA they would face up to five years in prison.

No one notified anyone in the AD or University system outside a half dozen medical personnel about a rape allegation.

When the university did find out, years later,due to a Sunshine Law request from the parents to get her email, they contacted the parents and asked if the parents wanted an investigation. The university received no response from the parents.

The only problem the AD was aware of until years after her suicide is that she was mentally ill with borderline personality disorder.

In regards to her being withdrawn from the university...

"Once the decision was made to seek treatment in Boston, following the stay in Kansas City, Meghan was consulted again, and Sasha and her family made the final decision to withdraw her from her courses.

This decision was made with Sasha's best interest in mind to protect her academic future and allow her to return to Mizzou when ready. Had this step not been taken, under the circumstances she was at serious risk of failing academically and being unable to return at a later time. At the very least, it would have been very difficult for Sasha to return had this step not been taken, and her athletic eligibility might have been in serious jeopardy."



Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:38 pm to
I agree that it is very unlikely a case could ever be made due to time passage and other circumstances, tragically. However, it should be looked into at least.

After re-reading the article, I do find the presentation of the University Withdrawal form very strange. I'm not saying Missouri did anything wrong, but it's a curious timing. As stated though, the events are quite old in terms of any investigation. Just an awful, tragic situation the likes of which happens way too often.
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
10276 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:39 pm to
Terrible. Nothing but a shite sandwich. I hope her family is able to find closure.
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