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re: I am finally ready for a change at the top at UGA
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:16 am to austingator
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:16 am to austingator
look, lady, i know you hate georgia because you spew your anti red and black black rhetoric all the time. you want a grown up convo then you got my response, or you can keep flaming Georgia and be THAT guy
and yea, i called you lady and guy cause for some reason i feel like you said you were a girl but i could be wrong
and yea, i called you lady and guy cause for some reason i feel like you said you were a girl but i could be wrong
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:23 am to Damn Good Dawg
I get UGA's situation with Richt. It's just a matter of being realistic about what is behind Door #2. Odds are pretty strong that you go backwards before you go forwards if you get rid of him so just be realistic about that. If you bring in a disciplinarian for instance he is going to lose a lot of current players who didn't sign up for that and love Richt.
UT fired Fulmer and that certainly hasn't been great for them so far. Texas fired Fred Akers in the '80s with a very similar resume to Richt and took over a decade to recover. A&M fired RC in '02 and is just now starting to get back. It is really rare to replace a successful coach with a more successful coach. As I noted on another thread UT did it with Fulmer after Majors but the list is short.
So I guess are you willing to risk a decade of suckage by replacing Richt? If you don't think that UF, UT, Bama, and USC won't be waiting like vultures to rip into your recruiting base you are delusional. The margin for error you are looking at is very small. Not saying you should or shouldn't do it but be realistic about it.
BTW, Richt easily has a Top 10 coaching resume right now. Who are you going to replace him with (pretty sure Saban and Miles aren't available).
UT fired Fulmer and that certainly hasn't been great for them so far. Texas fired Fred Akers in the '80s with a very similar resume to Richt and took over a decade to recover. A&M fired RC in '02 and is just now starting to get back. It is really rare to replace a successful coach with a more successful coach. As I noted on another thread UT did it with Fulmer after Majors but the list is short.
So I guess are you willing to risk a decade of suckage by replacing Richt? If you don't think that UF, UT, Bama, and USC won't be waiting like vultures to rip into your recruiting base you are delusional. The margin for error you are looking at is very small. Not saying you should or shouldn't do it but be realistic about it.
BTW, Richt easily has a Top 10 coaching resume right now. Who are you going to replace him with (pretty sure Saban and Miles aren't available).
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:28 am to aggressor
i'm not one who thinks a coach steps in and immediately makes us better. i'm realistic, i know we have to go backwards but are we really that far from it already? you act like we have this bad arse team. in 2008 richt shite the best with an NFL offense. in 2009 we went 8-5 with a talented enough team. 2010 6-7. last year was 10-4 but look at who we beat and how we lost. realistically we could absolutely find a coach to do what richt has the past 4 years. and there is no guarantee we could do that but do you really suggest georgia just sit on it's hands and watch all our rivals and conference win titles while we squawk about how good a christian richt is?
the fact is we know what we get with richt and it isn't even consistent. he's getting worse. and as much as you may think this is a knee jerk reaction know this: i have wanted richt fired since 2009 but primarily i haven't looked back since 2010 Colorado. since that game i have never once gone back from wanting richt removed.
the fact is we know what we get with richt and it isn't even consistent. he's getting worse. and as much as you may think this is a knee jerk reaction know this: i have wanted richt fired since 2009 but primarily i haven't looked back since 2010 Colorado. since that game i have never once gone back from wanting richt removed.
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:37 am to Damn Good Dawg
UGA needs the prince of Athens to right the ship, makes sense for everyone, imo.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:46 am to Damn Good Dawg
I'm not arguing either way. Honestly I DGAF as A&M will likely rarely even play UGA. Keep him or don't.
Richt has done a lot more than "Be a good Christian" for you btw, dude has recruited lights out. UGA is in better position today than it was a couple years ago. He also won the East last year and at least gave LSU a run in the CG even though he was outmanned. He has added to your trophy case quite a bit in his tenure as well even if it doesn't include a crystal football.
I have to say I didn't think things could be much worse for A&M after the disaster that was the '02 season. My wife almost wouldn't let me go to A&M games anymore I got so upset every weekend. Then Fran showed me how it feels to lose 77-0 and know it could have been a lot worse. Suddenly it wasn't an issue if we were going to win the conference anymore, it was whether we could make a bowl game. It is hard to get back and the SEC is certainly unmerciful. Just realize how bad it can get.
I still am glad we fired RC. He had outlived his time at A&M and was going down. Of course his recruiting was also down and he simply wasn't keeping up with Stoops and Brown and he was even starting to get slapped around by some new guy named Leach at Tech. We went out and hired the best guy imaginable resume wise and it blew up big time. Just realize that is the risk you take. Not saying you shouldn't do it but understand how fast and how hard you can fall as well as how hard it can be to get back up.
Richt has done a lot more than "Be a good Christian" for you btw, dude has recruited lights out. UGA is in better position today than it was a couple years ago. He also won the East last year and at least gave LSU a run in the CG even though he was outmanned. He has added to your trophy case quite a bit in his tenure as well even if it doesn't include a crystal football.
I have to say I didn't think things could be much worse for A&M after the disaster that was the '02 season. My wife almost wouldn't let me go to A&M games anymore I got so upset every weekend. Then Fran showed me how it feels to lose 77-0 and know it could have been a lot worse. Suddenly it wasn't an issue if we were going to win the conference anymore, it was whether we could make a bowl game. It is hard to get back and the SEC is certainly unmerciful. Just realize how bad it can get.
I still am glad we fired RC. He had outlived his time at A&M and was going down. Of course his recruiting was also down and he simply wasn't keeping up with Stoops and Brown and he was even starting to get slapped around by some new guy named Leach at Tech. We went out and hired the best guy imaginable resume wise and it blew up big time. Just realize that is the risk you take. Not saying you shouldn't do it but understand how fast and how hard you can fall as well as how hard it can be to get back up.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:52 pm to WG_Dawg
Maybe LSU and UGA fans have something in common after reading some of the UGA posts on this matter
Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:27 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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look, lady, i know you hate georgia because you spew your anti red and black black rhetoric all the time. you want a grown up convo then you got my response, or you can keep flaming Georgia and be THAT guy and yea, i called you lady and guy cause for some reason i feel like you said you were a girl but i could be wrong
Lady is correct.
It isn't a secret that I don't like GA, but for years I've been saying that Helen is mediocre, but all the puppies kept drinking the kool aide. I want Helen to stay for selfish reasons. Obviously. It is a catch 22 to get rid of him this year though.
Regarding the 2007 season, I still maintain that you guys did very little to deserve ending ranked #2. If you remember (and I'm too lazy to look it up) GA gained over 10 spots on the rankings, just by beating UF- a team that was young, without a secondary and with one of the Pouncy brothers playing defense, because we were that depleted. We had a good offense that year, but goodness we couldn't stop anyone (the name Lester still makes me shiver). GA was not special that year. College football had a down and crazy year. It was not surprising to me to see a collapse in 2008 judging by the egos of stafford and Moreno. They were never team players. Helen is always concerned about schemes with dances, celebrations and uniforms, instead of teaching those players to be a team of winners.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 7:45 pm to Marty McFrat
One game so far. Richt can't win the big ones. We win the easy ones, sometimes, but never meet expectations or potential of our highly recruited players. 
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