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re: HUNH Rule change
Posted on 2/16/14 at 5:19 pm to GooseSix
Posted on 2/16/14 at 5:19 pm to GooseSix
I'll just leave this here...
Data on injuries in fast paced vs slow paced teams
Data on injuries in fast paced vs slow paced teams
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 5:21 pm
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 5:42 pm to Crimson Legend
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Agree with doing something to change the situation
Saban needs to learn to coach a defense that can stop the HUNH. Condition your players so their fat azzez don't have to take ever other play off.
Other teams have done it, if he is the GREATEST COACH THAT HAS EVER LIVED surely he can.
Or maybe he can't and that's why he's whining like a bi*ch to the NCAA.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 6:21 pm to AUWDE
Cool story bro...
Posted on 2/16/14 at 6:22 pm to ronbergundy
Nice find.
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Top 20 ‘Fast’ Teams in FBS Football 2012
Average Plays per Game: 83.12
Total Starts Lost to Injury: 143
Average Number of Starts Lost Per Team: 7.15
Average Starts Lost per Play: .086
Top 20 ‘Slow’ Teams in FBS Football 2012
Average Plays per Game: 65.85
Total Starts Lost to Injury: 151
Average Number of Starts Lost Per Team: 7.55
Average Starts Lost per Play: .115
Posted on 2/16/14 at 6:29 pm to Gator5220
If these stats can be substantiated, I'd guess that the recommendation will be denied by the vote.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 6:47 pm to coachcrisp
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Posted by coachcrisp If these stats can be substantiated, I'd guess that the recommendation will be denied by the vote.
It would make perfect sense, but then again, the NCAA does not always use common sense.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 6:54 pm to coachcrisp
Which is why if they want it passed they shouldn't be hiding behind player safety. They should simply say they're trying to give the defense a window to sub after every play, the offense can sub whenever they want and the defense should have that opportunity as well.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 6:55 pm to RedMustang
I don't think that the format could be any more direct, as long as the data is good.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 6:59 pm to memphis tiger
It's obvious the rule change is needed. I do not see how so many of you are against the safety of players. Winning
Isn't everything!
Isn't everything!
Posted on 2/16/14 at 6:59 pm to coachcrisp
There's enough there to warrant an official study by the NCAA before they give the officials even more control over the game.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:11 pm to Gator5220
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Total starts lost to injury
Why not just list the total number of injuries?
Data is skewed. Plus it uses one stat and tries to make it sound like 3.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:16 pm to Stonehog
the only thing skewed here is your desperate and obvious desire to eliminate the fast paced offense so that Bielema can actually win a game in the SEC
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:18 pm to ronbergundy
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ronbergundy
It's spelled Burgundy you illiterate railroad hobo.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:22 pm to Stonehog
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It's spelled Burgundy you illiterate railroad hobo.
Did it ever occur to you that the username with the correct spelling was already taken? Take your desperate attempts at being intelligent elsewhere. It's a football forum, not a damned hooked on phonics message board, you retard
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:27 pm to ronbergundy
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Did it ever occur to you that the username with the correct spelling was already taken?
Then you should have been more original. Just delete this throwaway account and start over.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:36 pm to Stonehog
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Then you should have been more original. Just delete this throwaway account and start over.
Honestly, I have no interest in arguing with you over a stupid username. I posted on the thread to post factual evidence in regards to the blind assertion that fast paced offenses cause more injuries. Which according to the data is flat out a false statement. If the data offends you then I'm sorry that the truth hurts. Fact of the matter is Saban and Bielema don't have an answer to those types of offenses, yet LSU and others do. So until then, I suggest you kick Bielema to the curb and find a coach worth the millions of dollars being thrown at them.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:47 pm to N97883
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Saban just doesnt have the S&C and scheme to counter it.
This is the crux of it right here. If you are worried about your players have them conditioned to play.
Of course this is going to require a drastic change from the current bama S&C program.
The irony is this change would go a long way toward improving the "player safety" Nick is so concerned about.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:48 pm to Gator5220
While I do not agree with the rule change at all, I don't see why the ref marking the ball ready for play can't just stand over the ball a few seconds for subs. There are a few things about HUNH you dont always see in the SEC as you do if you see an Oregon game or another similar team out west. For one, sometimes you see crews running around the field like chickens with there heads cut off trying to spot the ball for play as quickly as possible. I have only seen this a time or two in the SEC but you see it frequently in the pac 12. No extra effort should be made to accomadate teams that want to go fast. Secondly, and this goes on everywhere, the offense will sub right after the play while running to the line and the defense never gets the chance to sub as the ball is spotted and marked for play right away. Again, I think a rule change is not needed but see no reason to not take a couple extra seconds to mark the ball ready for play.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:51 pm to artompkins
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Again, I think a rule change is not needed but see no reason to not take a couple extra seconds to mark the ball ready for play.
Then I feel that is something that the official himself can unofficially control by setting the ball down a few seconds later. Claiming injuries is the issue though is just unsubstantiated and including a rule for 10 seconds that comes along with a delay of game penalty just seems extremely dumb
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:52 pm to RandySavage
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Saban just doesnt have the S&C and scheme to counter it.
This is the crux of it right here. If you are worried about your players have them conditioned to play.
Bama's strength and conditioning program is one of, if not the, best in the country. RandySavage, you are one of, if not the, worst posters on SECR. At least you spelled some of the words in this post correctly.
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