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re: HUNH and The Spread: Success in Consecutive Seasons?

Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by Chronic
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:59 pm to
I'm not sure if he means HUNH or spread or both together. Obviously Florida used the spread but it was not HUNH.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:07 pm to
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Obviously Florida used the spread but it was not HUNH.


They ran some NH.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:19 pm to
Fine work you've done here. Let your suck carry on.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:20 pm to
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What was their record, bad arse?



Their offense was CLEARLY the reason they lost games.
Posted by mulletproof
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:41 pm to
No reason to insult Kirby about it, he might as well be a rock-em-sock-em robot in the "process".
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:43 pm to
So who slowed A&M down on offense? Not Bama. LSU did slow them down but Manziel looked hurt in that game. He was so obviously hurt against us that I don't count it.

So basically your whole premise sucked and you're wrong.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:49 pm to
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I think Kirby Smart's stock is dropping because of bama's abilities against the HUNH. Schools will start copying what Gus is doing and those schools that have openings will evaluate bama's performace against it. I believe he waited one year too long to get a HC job.


Would support a new thread based on this.
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 3:17 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by burbank
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 3:59 pm to


..So, in other words, once our Defensive Talent matches the big dogs (Bama, LSU etc) we might not have to outscore everyone?

Our O might have led the league, but it cost us dearly at times when we couldn't put teams away..AUburn comes to mind.
Or move the ball late in the 4th qtr at Mizzou in a tie game.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 4:04 pm to
what a terrible thread
Posted by americanrealism
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 4:07 pm to
"The spread" is such a general term that it pretty much means nothing now. Myriad different offenses use 4 and 5-wide sets regularly and in so many different ways that calling an offense "the spread" barely specifies anything anymore.

soapbox [OFF] ON
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 4:09 pm to
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The spread" is such a general term that it pretty much means nothing now. Myriad different offenses use 4 and 5-wide sets regularly and in so many different ways that calling an offense "the spread" barely specifies anything anymore.


Agree, and Auburn doesnt run 5 wide all that much either. So as you state the spread is a general term, which also often gets confused with HUNH
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 4:09 pm to
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HUNH and The Spread: Success in Consecutive Seasons?

I'll play.

When was the last time a "traditional" offense won the SEC in consecutive seasons, in the BCS era?

ETA: Since clearly that's the metric being used for defining "success" in this thread.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 4:11 pm
Posted by americanrealism
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 4:12 pm to
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Agree, and Auburn doesnt run 5 wide all that much either. So as you state the spread is a general term, which also often gets confused with HUNH


Agreed. Auburn uses a lot of HUNH but not a lot of "spread" formations. People conflate the terms but they refer to two totally different things.
Posted by AU03ALUM
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 5:28 pm to
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Day 20 meltdown



Glorious isn't it.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:48 pm to
But did we really run hurry up like everyone claims? I thought we were a lot slower than 2010/2011. We didn't huddle to keep the defense from subbing.
Posted by kjacksonp
Mobile, AL
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:50 pm to
Did not appear that Bama figured out either TAMA or Auburn's offense.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:49 pm to
All teams are dependent upon players. UT's 2012 offense was one of the fastest in the country - faster than many spread/hunh teams despite being pro-style. But that team also had some outrageously good WRs and a gunslinger QB. No one complained about speed because the defense sucked so hard the high powered offense didn't matter and it was still pro-style.

Bammer's problem isn't speed but figuring out a new way of dealing with plays that allow many options from the same play. In time, defensive coordinators in the SEC who are used to a different style will figure that out just as others have done.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:51 pm to
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UF won a BCSCG in 2006 and again in 2008 running the spread.


Gus Malzahn is no Urban Meyer.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:55 pm to
Aside from Alabama and a few LSU teams, all teams have won the national titles in the past decade with the help of an above average to exceptional QB. Alabama is the only team to have success with a mediocre player at the position. It's not that big of deal to design a system around the QB. Outside of having the best defense in the country like Bama, you can't really get by without it.
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