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re: "Hugh Freeze Manages to Take and Shed Responsibility in One Nonapology"
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:42 am to Cowbells
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:42 am to Cowbells
"I don't have any information that anybody on my staff has been involved in any illegal payments to players or offering any inducements to players...
Hugh Freeze
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
Bill Clinton
"You know, I always wondered about that taping equipment but I'm damn glad we have it, aren't you?"
Richard Nixon
Hugh Freeze
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
Bill Clinton
"You know, I always wondered about that taping equipment but I'm damn glad we have it, aren't you?"
Richard Nixon
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:52 am to mikrit54
"Senator, I did not take steroids." -Roger Clemens
Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:00 pm to Whereisomaha
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But back to Tunsil, if we gave him 200-400k then why did he need $300 for a light bill? Use logic
Same reason that NBA players that earned $100 million during their careers are broke 5 years later.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:05 pm to Cowbells
Hell, Freeze is over.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:08 pm to Terry the Tiger
I kind of doubt that players get a large chunk of money at once. That would put all of the power in the hands of the player. I am guessing they string them along and make them ask for money so they can keep control of them.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:34 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
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I kind of doubt that players get a large chunk of money at once. That would put all of the power in the hands of the player. I am guessing they string them along and make them ask for money so they can keep control of them.
That would bring about a big dilemma for continuing to pay on installments. Even though continuing to pay would bring about a possible death penalty, it is probably safer than not paying, which might produce disgruntled snitches. Tracing payments from boosters to players is nearly impossible.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:29 pm to Allyn McKeen
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Even though continuing to pay would bring about a possible death penalty, it is probably safer than not paying, which might produce disgruntled snitches. Tracing payments from boosters to players is nearly impossible.
That is a good point. If I am a 4 star receiver from Texas that shows up knowing that my bills will be paid for off campus housing, meals paid for, I'll have a car, etc...and then that all dries up...I am gonna be pissed. Best case, I'll probably want to transfer closer to home. Worst case, once my eligibility is up, I talk to the NCAA about the impermissible benefits that I received.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 2:13 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
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I kind of doubt that players get a large chunk of money at once. That would put all of the power in the hands of the player. I am guessing they string them along and make them ask for money so they can keep control of them.
It has been alleged, that schools (or boosters thereof) were willing to pay close to $200k for 1-2 years of a star quarterback six years ago.
It was proven by the FBI that a booster for a school was willing to pay the same amount for a star DT nearly 16 years ago.
Big money changes hands for some of the very top talent. It certainly does happen.
eta: the problem with exchanging that kind of money is that it is hard for 6-figure transactions, directed towards poor people (generally speaking), to go unnoticed.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/1/16 at 2:38 pm to DanMullins4Life
Freeze never played the game. He is a sham and a gimmick coach.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:03 pm to DeltaDoc
quote:Tunsil on tv?
.and then that all dries up...I am gonna be pissed. Worst case, once my eligibility is up, I talk to the NCAA about the impermissible benefits that I received.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:05 pm to Cowbells
Damn those Egg Bowls have you rustled.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:15 pm to Cowbells
He is a colossal hypocrite and really appears to be the worst kind of stereotypical faux christian. I'd love to see that clown deposed.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:16 pm to Whereisomaha
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Only one level one violation has to do with Freeze or his staff and it is about a FCA director they didn't know was classified as a booster driving HS kids to games. That gets more attention than rape cover up and his image is more damaged than Nutt who was found guilty of changing test scores and academic fraud. You'd feel like a victim too over this stupid shite
You might want to reread Charge 8. There was a breakfast catered at Freeze's house that included a recruit's family members, apparently in violation of the rules. One would presume he was there and met those folks having breakfast in his house.
Secondly, that charge also includes a statement that Freeze was directly informed by a booster that the booster's son was tutoring a recruit, also a violation according the the investigators. Apparently nothing was done in response at the time to this information.
What is apparent is that the Ole Miss Athletic Department negligently failed to properly monitor and educate its staff or that that someone was deliberately violating the rules. Either way, it is more than a simple mistake, which is why the violations listed in Cahrfe 8 were classed at Level I.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:26 pm to Whereisomaha
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OM just was too blatant about it and pissed off half the conferenc
Then why has no one found any pay for play if it's so blatant? How are we losing all these players on NSD if we are so blatant?
So if 2 bank robbers rob a bank but the money is never found, I guess they didn't rob the bank?
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:31 pm to SouthOfHere
quote:FIFY
So if 2 bank robbers mistakingly rob a bank but the money is never found, I guess they didn't rob the bank?
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:32 pm to tigerinridgeland
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There was a breakfast catered at Freeze's house that included a recruit's family members, apparently in violation of the rules.
God help us all.
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Freeze was directly informed by a booster that the booster's son was tutoring a recruit
The entire NCAA has been undermined. Nothing to do now but blow the whole thing up and start all over. Thanks a lot Ole Miss.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:35 pm to UAtide11
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Big money changes hands for some of the very top talent. It certainly does happen.
It doesn't always go to the kid either and most of the time it isn't traceable. Sometimes its the HS coach, family member, or school administrator (Julian Cazanas, JR. in Miami has been suspected of steering kids to highest bidder and cooking grades for years but nothing has stuck).
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:36 pm to beHop
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Did the FCA guy drive prospects to other universities
Yeah. He did. frick you.
No he did not.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:44 pm to Cowbells
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That’s funny, because such evidence became publicly available last month when Laremy Tunsil’s hacked Instagram account posted screenshots of an incriminating exchange between Tunsil and assistant AD John Miller.
Does this clown consider this evidence? I hate what journalism has become. While I certainly think it is cause of investigation, it is not evidence, it is hearsay, and if it were admissible as evidence then all it would take to convict someone is a microphone and a little creativity in MS Paint/editing phone contacts.
All of you should hate this too, because this asshat is basically getting paid to do what you do on here every day.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:46 pm to GnashRebel
By themselves, neither event would have been a big deal, but it is the drip, drip, drip of multiple violations by conduct that most fans know would be problematic that is why Ole Miss is facing Level 1 charges.
The post about the breakfast and the tutoring was in response to the assertion that Freeze wasn't named in any of the violations. That isn't true. The post wasn't to prove that the specific incidents were in and of themselves a big deal, but to show that he was indeed named in at least two different incidents.
Each of the incidents lists in Charge 8 are in themselves minor matters, but together, they give the NCAA. a basis for the Level 1 classification.
The post about the breakfast and the tutoring was in response to the assertion that Freeze wasn't named in any of the violations. That isn't true. The post wasn't to prove that the specific incidents were in and of themselves a big deal, but to show that he was indeed named in at least two different incidents.
Each of the incidents lists in Charge 8 are in themselves minor matters, but together, they give the NCAA. a basis for the Level 1 classification.
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