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re: How many active members from other conferences do we have here?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:12 pm to Boomer00
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:12 pm to Boomer00
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if only ND had played more top 25 teams and had a better SOS
You mean like Navy (top 15), USC, Clemson (#1), Stanford, Temple, and Pittsburgh?
Notre Dame has done all this without their starting QB, starting TE, and starting RB.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 3:13 pm
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:13 pm to Crimson Legend
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I know we have a couple of Buckeyes
Correction, had a couple of Buckeyes. Those guys will be in hiding until their next NC.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:35 pm to Crimson Legend
I'm an Iowa fan!
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:40 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Correction, had a couple of Buckeyes. Those guys will be in hiding until their next NC.
Not true. Most of us have been here since the LSU game so I wouldn't bet on us leaving based on one loss.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:42 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
How many of those teams are still ranked? In that case WVU, TN, TTECH, TCU, BAYLOR, OK STATE are all top 20 teams OU has beaten. 2 of them will be top 10 teams on the road.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:48 pm to Boomer00
TCU won't be ranked in the final playoff poll after they lose to Baylor. Temple will.
In terms of teams in the FINAL top 25:
Notre Dame will have beaten Navy, Temple, Stanford, and Pitt
Oklahoma will have beaten Baylor and Oklahoma State while losing to a 4-5 win Texas team that Notre Dame beat by 35 points.
In terms of teams in the FINAL top 25:
Notre Dame will have beaten Navy, Temple, Stanford, and Pitt
Oklahoma will have beaten Baylor and Oklahoma State while losing to a 4-5 win Texas team that Notre Dame beat by 35 points.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:52 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Pitt wont be ranked lol, and neither will temple. TCU will still be ranked I bet.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:56 pm to Boomer00
Goddammit, Notre Dame will NOT have beaten Stanford.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 4:02 pm to oman
Boomer, I appreciate your sand, but the committee job in terms of Notre Dame (assuming the magic fairy land that they beat Stanford) and OU will be pretty easy.
Common opponent Texas.
Easy decision.
However, since Stanford is going to beat Notre Dame, no worries.
Common opponent Texas.
Easy decision.
However, since Stanford is going to beat Notre Dame, no worries.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 4:05 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Correction, had a couple of Buckeyes. Those guys will be in hiding until their next NC.
If LSU can stick it out for 8 years and counting, so can we.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 4:42 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
if you really think ND is going to beat Stanford I feel comfortable saying you are bad at analyzing football teams.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 4:45 pm to BearBait09
I guess people here are not aware that ND is now without their best RB and some other starters for the Stanford game. Makes sense since im sure the only thing these SEC mouth breathers watch is Fineturd and the SEC network.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 4:45 pm to Boomer00
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I guess people here are not aware that ND is now without their best RB and some other starters for the Stanford game
They've been without those starters since the Virginia game.
No one thought they would beat #14 Georgia Tech without Malik Zaire and Taurean Folston either.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 4:51 pm to oman
ND is a totally different team due to injuries than the team that pounded Texas.
OU losing to Texas is bad and embarrassing but ND is not nearly as good as they are being ranked and it is complete crap. I expect Stanford to beat them by ~20. OU would annihilate ND if they played right now.
ND was helped by the rainstorm when they played Clemson, Clemson's offense is far better than ND and the weather slowed them more. They also played prevent for an entire quarter that allowed ND to get into the game. So yeah, technically ND has a 2 point loss to the #1 team in the country, but they also have'nt played anyone else with top 15 talent. Navy and Temple are borderline top 25 teams. Committee is supposed to look past the win loss and recognize the real quality of teams, but they clearly have an agenda. and that agenda is helping the big 10, and they've been doing it for two years. I look forward to Ohio St falling to 7 and remaining ahead of Baylor Ok St Stanford and a slew of other teams that have done more. Ohio St's best win is penn st at home. The committee may as well rank the top 4 based on recruiting ranks.
OU losing to Texas is bad and embarrassing but ND is not nearly as good as they are being ranked and it is complete crap. I expect Stanford to beat them by ~20. OU would annihilate ND if they played right now.
ND was helped by the rainstorm when they played Clemson, Clemson's offense is far better than ND and the weather slowed them more. They also played prevent for an entire quarter that allowed ND to get into the game. So yeah, technically ND has a 2 point loss to the #1 team in the country, but they also have'nt played anyone else with top 15 talent. Navy and Temple are borderline top 25 teams. Committee is supposed to look past the win loss and recognize the real quality of teams, but they clearly have an agenda. and that agenda is helping the big 10, and they've been doing it for two years. I look forward to Ohio St falling to 7 and remaining ahead of Baylor Ok St Stanford and a slew of other teams that have done more. Ohio St's best win is penn st at home. The committee may as well rank the top 4 based on recruiting ranks.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 4:57 pm to BearBait09
The only way Baylor ever makes the playoffs if they aren't undefeated is to actually schedule someone worth a pulse in nonconference.
Barring that, since Art Briles has repeatedly insisted on playing the weakest of nonconference schedules and actively thumbing his nose at the playoff committee, Baylor will continue to be ranked outside of the top four.
Let's put conference strength into perspective here.
The Big 12 has four teams that are worth a damn right now (Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Baylor, and TCU). Only one of those is a ratings draw (Oklahoma) The rest of the conference is absolutely putrid. For historical reference, name a time period, ANY time period, in which A&M, Texas, and Oklahoma have all been good to great at the same time.
The ACC is becoming more balanced, with Clemson and Florida State in the Atlantic (with the occasional 3rd party) and North Carolina emerging in the coastal (with to occasional appearance by Duke and Pittsburgh. Virginia Tech, who has historically dominated that division, is down)
The Big 10 is getting stronger, with Iowa and Wisconsin holding down the west and Ohio State and the Michigan teams holding down the east
The PAC 12 is having a down year with Oregon's struggles, but the North Division is no longer a 2-team division, with the emergence of Cal and Washington State. The South Division is wide open.
The SEC is having a bit of a down year, but the west is strong and the east is improving.
Barring that, since Art Briles has repeatedly insisted on playing the weakest of nonconference schedules and actively thumbing his nose at the playoff committee, Baylor will continue to be ranked outside of the top four.
Let's put conference strength into perspective here.
The Big 12 has four teams that are worth a damn right now (Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Baylor, and TCU). Only one of those is a ratings draw (Oklahoma) The rest of the conference is absolutely putrid. For historical reference, name a time period, ANY time period, in which A&M, Texas, and Oklahoma have all been good to great at the same time.
The ACC is becoming more balanced, with Clemson and Florida State in the Atlantic (with the occasional 3rd party) and North Carolina emerging in the coastal (with to occasional appearance by Duke and Pittsburgh. Virginia Tech, who has historically dominated that division, is down)
The Big 10 is getting stronger, with Iowa and Wisconsin holding down the west and Ohio State and the Michigan teams holding down the east
The PAC 12 is having a down year with Oregon's struggles, but the North Division is no longer a 2-team division, with the emergence of Cal and Washington State. The South Division is wide open.
The SEC is having a bit of a down year, but the west is strong and the east is improving.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 5:05 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I'm half Iowa and half Arkansas. Attended both universities, and am originally from Iowa.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 5:15 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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The only way Baylor ever makes the playoffs if they aren't undefeated is to actually schedule someone worth a pulse in nonconference.
I'm very aware Baylor's playoff shot is very grim. last year made it clear the committee will favor the big 10 and name brands. the talking heads are currently debating who would be taken between two loss stanford and 1 loss Baylor. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they took 2 loss Stanford, the committee has already shown they value a nonconference schedule that is 3 cupcakes and 1 mediocre power 5 as better than 3 cupcakes. even if you lose to the mediocre power 5 team at home.
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Barring that, since Art Briles has repeatedly insisted on playing the weakest of nonconference schedules and actively thumbing his nose at the playoff committee, Baylor will continue to be ranked outside of the top four.
Art Briles doesn't schedule teams. ADs do that. Briles is spinning it for his team and campaign, would you prefer him say "yeah we beat nobody out of conference, we don't deserve your respect." Who the hell knows how Briles actually feels about it. Baylor was ranked 5 last year for several reasons, and not all of them were fair. It was extraordinarily convenient for the committee to finally place Baylor ahead of TCU and therefore honor the head to head at the exact moment they could swoop Ohio St into the spot that actually mattered.
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ANY time period, in which A&M, Texas, and Oklahoma have all been good to great at the same time.
it is cute as hell you are pretending A&M was one of the 3 powers of the big 12. do you actually think anyone buys that garbage?
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The ACC is becoming more balanced
now you are just being ridiculous. The ACC is garbage. this is precisely why it's so disgusting ND is in consideration for a playoff spot. They played 6 ACC teams, ND IS an ACC team. Clemson and ND both in the playoff is two ACC teams in a 4 team playoff, and is cosmically ridiculous considering the ACC is far and away the weakest power 5 conference. The second weakest conference is the big 10. Iowa is a solid team with a joke schedule. Clemson to a degree also.
The Pac and SEC are both suffering down years, but in entirely opposite ways. The SEC is providing one viable playoff candidate, the pac12 has a pile of competitive teams that are mauling each other. the Pac12 also schedules so much tougher than everyone else. by the end of the year Stanford will have played 11 power 5 teams + ND. Alabama will end up with just 10 power 5. Alabama would have two losses with Stanford's schedule.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 5:20 pm to BearBait09
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Stanford will have played 11 power 5 teams + ND. Alabama will end up with just 9 power 5. Alabama would have two losses with Stanford's schedule.
LOL
Stanford's Power 5 opponents by FPI (11 games)
#8 Notre Dame
#10 USC
#18 UCLA
#24 Oregon
#27 Cal
#30 Washington
#45 Washington State
#55 Northwestern
#58 Arizona
#84 Colorado
#97 Oregon State
Stanford 11 game average of 41.45
Alabama's 9 Power 5 opponents plus top 2 non P5 (11 games)
#7 Ole Miss
#11 Tennessee
#12 LSU
#20 Miss State
#22 Arkansas
#23 Georgia
#25 Texas A&M
#29 Wisconsin
#31 Auburn
#81 MTSU
#119 ULM
Alabama's 11 game average : 34.55
Yea, shutup
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 5:26 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
The SEC west isn't that strong.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 5:29 pm to oman
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The SEC west isn't that strong.
It isn't as strong as some past years, but it also doesn't have a single awful team in it.
And Alabama will have played the 3 best teams from the dumpster fire East at the end of the year (Tennessee, Georgia, Florida) and not played a single one of the terrible 4 (UK, Vandy, USCe, Missouri).
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