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re: How does Bama compare with tu in running a conference?

Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:07 pm to
Jokes on him. If A&M wins that game we don't fire Mike Sherman and hire Kevin Sumlin
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:08 pm to
Clearly an aggy conspiracy.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
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Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:08 pm to


Definitely an upgrade

Bama still has some

This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 6:12 pm
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:10 pm to
Coaching staff wasn't paying players... if anyone, it was boosters here and there.

At A&M, the coaches were neck-deep in the process, doling out the cash and driving up in the yard in new cars. See: Joe Avezzano.

Big difference.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60148 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:10 pm to
I try to separate sports from real life, but that may be the only sports event that still truly pisses me off. As a fanbase we definitely still mad


And yes, I realize in the end it directly and indirectly led to many positive things. But it still makes me mad
This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:10 pm to
I'll be honest. At the time it hurt. BAD. I never took a loss that hard. I cried. I actually cried tears and I'm a grown arse 30 year old man. I didn't log on to Facebook for almost 2 months to avoid having to read posts. I didn't get on Texags for a couple weeks. I didn't get on the rant.

There's no reason a football game should've affected my happiness so much

The Lord works in mysterious ways
Posted by sdmlsu1
up n dis bish
Member since Nov 2007
701 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:11 pm to
Seems Bama and UT are both crooked but UT is less back door about it. Guess Bama will have to settle for #2 crook.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:11 pm to
Cam you link me to an article where Jackie Sherrill was ever proven of doing anything wrong?
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:12 pm to


This one hurt deep
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60148 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:15 pm to
I pretty much completely shut myself off for a week or whatever until we fired Sherman. I signed up here shortly after
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:17 pm to
you see bama as crooked...I see a championship caliber team. its all about perspective

just another rustled LSU fan
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

In addition, the NCAA placed Jackie Sherrill, the athletic director and football coach, on administrative probation for two years.

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The NCAA said Sherrill lacked control over the university's assistant coaches, athletes and "representatives of its athletic interests," meaning alumni and boosters.

"The university's assistant football coaches, student athletes and representatives of its athletics' interests engaged in a variety of activities that demonstrated that these individuals had little knowledge of or regard for NCAA standards," the NCAA report said.

Philadelphia Inquirer
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:23 pm to
So Sherrill did nothing? Even when he allowed the NCAA to repeatedly search his office. They pretty much lived on our campus. Found nothing.

Jackie's biggest infraction was kicking Texas' arse too bad too often
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15590 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:24 pm to
The SEC Office in Bumminhayum just got 1000% better with the hiring away of LSU Vice-Chancellor for Athletics and Assistant A.D. Herb Vincent to a Communications post in the SEC Office.
It just may be the only car in the lot with a Geaux Tigers license plate.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:24 pm to
of course they weren't. Akers was totally clueless. But the payments never stopped.

The first infraction for the booster payments occurred over the years 1977-1981 (the 5 year rule they couldn't go further back). The infractions for that was in 1983 or so. Texas said "hey we just have some unruly boosters." I can buy that. You guys got a slap on the wrist that time (no penalty at all)

Later the NCAA came again (that's the article I posted). They didn't get around to investigating til the 5-year period was up but they found the same scheme in place for the period of 1982-1987 That's right, during the previous investigation boosters continued straight paying athletes. During. This was also 2 years after the Pony Express scandal. Yet the punishment was....

LINK

quote:

The penalties against Texas would reduce the number of football scholarships in 1988-89 from 25 to 20, and would reduce the number of recruiting visits from 95 to 75.
quote:

The Texas football program has been placed on probation twice before by the N.C.A.A., but without sanctions on either of those occasions.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:26 pm to
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So Sherrill did nothing?

Exactly. His assistants were doing it all and he did absolutely nothing, hence, "lack of institutional control" for A&M and administrative probation for ol' Jackie.

ETA: Shall I say, "he did nothing about it" and turned a blind eye.
This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 6:28 pm
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15512 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:26 pm to
Bama may or may not have as much influence as tu, but the manner in which they exert it is vastly difference. Bama seems to be more of pulling strings behind the scenes where as tu was blatantly strong arming their way around.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45113 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:30 pm to
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I think I saw where UT gets like 60% of the big12's total revenue or something like that.


How do they get away with that? Does Texase literally run the conference in that they make all choices? Or does the others schools just accept things and vote however Texas wants on all matters?
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:30 pm to
Can you be specific about some of the infractions for which Texas was found guilty by the NCAA?

If you can't, then knock yourself out (I've read the final reports, btw):

LINK
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

I think I saw where UT gets like 60% of the big12's total revenue or something like that.



How do they get away with that? Does Texase literally run the conference in that they make all choices? Or does the others schools just accept things and vote however Texas wants on all matters?

Just to point out, the Big 12 now has equal revenue sharing, except for third-tier TV rights.

And yes, there were others who voted with Texas on previous revenue-sharing formulas... Nebraska and Texas A&M included. You know, the ones who bitched and moaned about unequal revenue while leaving.
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