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Posted on 8/17/15 at 5:52 pm to craigbiggio
His running style is so similar to Manziel's it is uncanny, and in terms of stats and accomplishments he is the greatest Texas HS QB ever.
What cant be underestimated is that he played in an Air Raid offense at Allen, who has one of the most highly regarded and polished schemes of any HS program in the country. He also did what he did in 6A Texas ball, which produces more college players than any single division in any state in the country. Allen on the other hand came from a pro style shotgun offense in Arizona facing lesser defenses.
Murray already has three years in a very similar offense and against elite HS defenders. That helps a lot.
What cant be underestimated is that he played in an Air Raid offense at Allen, who has one of the most highly regarded and polished schemes of any HS program in the country. He also did what he did in 6A Texas ball, which produces more college players than any single division in any state in the country. Allen on the other hand came from a pro style shotgun offense in Arizona facing lesser defenses.
Murray already has three years in a very similar offense and against elite HS defenders. That helps a lot.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 5:54 pm to craigbiggio
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Murray must be damn good because I was really impressed by Allen as a TF last year.
Supposedly the scrambles have the whole team buzzing, and he has the fastest release some people have ever seen. He's too good to keep off the field. Even if Kyle Allen wins the job, Kyler is going to get a lot of significant reps, and I bet a lot of redzone packages.
It's not an ideal situation, and I think one of them transfers either way, but they are both really good QBs. Our offense is going to click one way or another.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 5:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
Will Allen transfer if Murray starts?
Posted on 8/17/15 at 5:55 pm to Patton
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Will Allen transfer if Murray starts?
I don't see Murray starting, but if that happens I don't know why Allen would stay.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 5:56 pm to AgCoug
What about next year?
Posted on 8/17/15 at 5:56 pm to Patton
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Will Allen transfer if Murray starts?
I would think so. That allows him to transfer, red shirt, then get two more years somewhere else.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 5:57 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Sumlin has said unequivocally that Murray will play
Sumlin is a wise man
That kid needs to be on the field. This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 8/17/15 at 5:58 pm to Patton
Next year is the million dollar question, yeah. Who knows? If Allen starts this year and Murray is all that's promised, someone is going to get shafted. Sucks, but that's what competition is supposed to do.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 5:58 pm to Patton
I cant imagine the #1QB from 2014 staying as a backup. He could start for 100+ FBS teams IMO.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 6:00 pm to AgCoug
I agree. I love it when Bama gets kids that we already have good depth at. I love the kind of kids that DGAF and want to compete and be better than the other 5*s.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 6:01 pm to texag7
No crap Chavis is going to talk up his new players. What is he going to do, come out and say "leaving Lsu for college station was the biggest mistake of my life and a terrible way to wrap up my career"?
Posted on 8/17/15 at 6:01 pm to AgsNguyening
I fear for the Aggies. I don't know how much Chavis' scheming can help their run defense without there being good LBs. I do think that they can mitigate the lack of talent at CB with good safety play and pass rush but having poor LB play will allow teams to gut the defense.
Having Mack will help a lot if he is as good as y'all think he is. I doubt Chavis will allow penetration on early downs from the d-line because of how he schemed at LSU but it would be best for A&M. If Mack gets into the backfield, it'll allow Hall and Garrett to contain while the LBs and safeties come forward to tackle.
The problem comes when teams start throwing early and keep the defense off balance. LSU was able to dictate to most offenses because the DBs made sure that no pass was going to be easy. A&M won't have that luxury and will probably have to keep their safeties back to help the CBs out which won't do the LBs any favors.
Having Mack will help a lot if he is as good as y'all think he is. I doubt Chavis will allow penetration on early downs from the d-line because of how he schemed at LSU but it would be best for A&M. If Mack gets into the backfield, it'll allow Hall and Garrett to contain while the LBs and safeties come forward to tackle.
The problem comes when teams start throwing early and keep the defense off balance. LSU was able to dictate to most offenses because the DBs made sure that no pass was going to be easy. A&M won't have that luxury and will probably have to keep their safeties back to help the CBs out which won't do the LBs any favors.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 6:04 pm to rmnldr
It isnt that wedont have good players at LB, we just that they are young and we dont have enough to afford any injuries.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 6:04 pm to rmnldr
You can't honestly say replacing Synder with Chavis isnt going to improve their defense just based on quality of coaches alone. Maybe they won't make a huge jump, but it's likely they won't be worse. Regardless of what system they run, Chavis makes the Aggie D better. Period.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 6:05 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Supposedly the scrambles have the whole team buzzing, and he has the fastest release some people have ever seen. He's too good to keep off the field
Murray is going to have to play a lot this year. He will probably be brought in to use zone/read option to keep the defense off balance. Running a 2 QB system will make that offense hell to stop when having to prepare for both. With Kyle you have great accuracy and a field commander presence and Kyler will be a demon like Manziel which will get the offense out of a bind when the going gets tough. If you guys have a running back like you had with Trey Williams I wouldn't be surprised if you got 40+ points in almost every game.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 6:06 pm to Roger Klarvin
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It isnt that wedont have good players at LB, we just that they are young and we dont have enough to afford any injuries.
Oh. I thought one of the storyline was that your LBs were all injured and crap. Nevermind.
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You can't honestly say replacing Synder with Chavis isnt going to improve their defense just based on quality of coaches alone.
I never said that. I just said that against a run game it's hard to scheme when it's all 1v1 player battles. Chavis can't help players win those battles. He can only put them in a position to gain advantages. His biggest presence will be felt against spread teams with mobile QBs.
This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 8/17/15 at 6:07 pm to rmnldr
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Having Mack will help a lot if he is as good as y'all think he is. I doubt Chavis will allow penetration on early downs from the d-line because of how he schemed at LSU but it would be best for A&M. If Mack gets into the backfield, it'll allow Hall and Garrett to contain while the LBs and safeties come forward to tackle.
Mack won't even start. Walker/Obioha/Williams are our top 3 DTs. Mack will play a lot, but not as much as those three guys. We finally have depth on the defensive line.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 6:08 pm to rmnldr
Several of them were injured and did not participate in spring ball.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 6:08 pm to AgBQ00
Great thread bro at least you are talking about football and not trolling or bragging about money student housing or if your school is in the black or not
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