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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:47 pm to bmy
No they aren't. It is part of playing the position.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:51 pm to nc14
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No they aren't. It is part of playing the position
The rules (2-27-14) disagree. QBs mid throw and just after throwing are defenseless. The defenseless player status does not protect them from being hit but it does protect them from being hit above the shoulders.
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:56 pm to Diamondawg
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So Hurts saw him coming and totally eluded the 300 lb man coming at him with helmet? Dang - Hurts is tough as nails.
Irrelevant in this situation. He was not receiving a blind side block.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 9:11 pm to bmy
quote:Talking about irrelevant. Blind side has nothing to do with the rule.
Irrelevant in this situation. He was not receiving a blind side block.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 9:13 pm to bmy
Yes because Bama never gets the call
Posted on 9/19/16 at 9:35 pm to bmy
You were crying saying this was targeting
You are such a joke dude.
You are such a joke dude.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 9:59 pm to bmy
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Chad Kelly Hit
Kelly lowered his own head into the hit as well.
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Jalen Hurts hit
Didn't.
That said, I am not one of the ones that said there should be a flag. OM fans are making me reconsider that.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:01 pm to bmy
The downvotes should clue you in. Hopefully.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:05 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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You were crying saying this was targeting
"No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below).
Note 1 includes: Lowering the head before attacking, launching, etc.
That's clearly a personal foul and an automatic ejection. The ball carrier in the clip is not defenseless but that is not a requirement of Article 3.
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:08 pm to Diamondawg
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Talking about irrelevant. Blind side has nothing to do with the rule
Players receiving a blind side block are defenseless. A hit on the QB is a tackle and not a block.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:15 pm to VivaZapata27
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I'm not crying. The TD we had taken off the board was the only issue I had with officiating. That and the game was too damned long. The only thing I have to cry about is our ball security. Which has been poor
It was on CBS they're always too long. They're the worst!!
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:20 pm to bmy
Mad respect for Hurts. Dude got his lights knocked out, shook it off, led his team from 21 down to a victory. True freshman.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:26 pm to harmonics
The hit on Hurts was, by definition, a targeting foul.
The hit on Kelly was legal, but should be legislated out of the game as its dangerous to allow these guys to come flying in to "blow up" a ball carrier rather then make a true tackle.
The hit on Kelly was legal, but should be legislated out of the game as its dangerous to allow these guys to come flying in to "blow up" a ball carrier rather then make a true tackle.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:41 pm to droliver
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The hit on Hurts was, by definition, a targeting foul.
The hit on Kelly was legal, but should be legislated out of the game as its dangerous to allow these guys to come flying in to "blow up" a ball carrier rather then make a true tackle.
Neither player ia defenseless and the hits are near identical in delivery
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:44 pm to bmy
You're seriously arguing that Ruben obliterating LF is targeting, but the hit on Hurts wasn't? Because the Ole Miss player absolutely lowered his head and hit Hurts just as high.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 11:05 pm to Diamondawg
My $.02. I'm a bama fan and probably in the minority here, but I thought it was clean hit on hurts and a pu55y a$$ call on the crackback that same play/. Y'all keep on this track man, we'll be hanging flags on'em in 10 years. Hell man, it's s physical sport. It's not for everybody. Sometimes people get hurt. But if you make the choice to play, it comes with risks. If you make it totally safe, it's no longer football. It's like soccer using your hands.......I do not want flag football.
PS. The targeting / launching rule has probably more to do with the tackler than the recipient of the hit as far as safety goes.
PS. The targeting / launching rule has probably more to do with the tackler than the recipient of the hit as far as safety goes.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 11:15 pm to bmy
quote:you are dumb as a bag of rocks
Neither player ia defenseless and the hits are near identical in delivery
Posted on 9/19/16 at 11:35 pm to bmy
In my opinion neither should have been flagged. Football is football.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 12:43 am to JuiceTerry
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You're seriously arguing that Ruben obliterating LF is targeting, but the hit on Hurts wasn't? Because the Ole Miss player absolutely lowered his head and hit Hurts just as high.
More like they were all bad arse hits and fun as hell to watch.
But Foster attacked with the crown of his helmet. With the hit on Hurts the defender put his facemask under Hurts chin. A small distinction but the rule makes one hit an automatic ejection and the other legal.
Reality is that the rule is to protect the defender more so than the ball carrier.
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