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re: Herbstreit: People are failing to grasp this is a new era
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:41 am to BayouBengals03
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:41 am to BayouBengals03
and yet, the rankings came out supporting what I said and not what you did. who's pretending they know?
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:41 am to aspiclark
No butt hurt here. I couldn't give a shite as an LSU fan. We're ranked #2, rightfully so. We earned ours. I think UF at the very least is getting effed, but I don't like them either. You're the one that's being completely biased.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:42 am to Fishhead
bama earned theirs too. every team did. that's how rankings work.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:42 am to aspiclark
I'm not pretending.
The criteria is listed on the CFP website for everyone to see. You claiming that record against common opponents doesn't matter (even though it is stated that it does) proves that you really don't know the criteria.
The criteria is listed on the CFP website for everyone to see. You claiming that record against common opponents doesn't matter (even though it is stated that it does) proves that you really don't know the criteria.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:43 am to Fishhead
I'm not sure if the rest helped all that much...but the fact that Alabama lost the first game had to have helped. Anyone who has ever played a sport, or really ANY activity...and lost, knows how that anger can fuel you to be better. LSU was in a tough spot in that championship game.
ETA: I can tell you one thing, I don't think about that NC without spending an equal amount of time thinking about that LSU team. I don't give a shite about Texas or ND. But I truly don't think 2011 would have been as special without both LSU and Alabama being that good. They'll always be 1a and 1b in my book.
ETA: I can tell you one thing, I don't think about that NC without spending an equal amount of time thinking about that LSU team. I don't give a shite about Texas or ND. But I truly don't think 2011 would have been as special without both LSU and Alabama being that good. They'll always be 1a and 1b in my book.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 12:46 am
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:45 am to BayouBengals03
I never said it didn't matter. but you ppl are saying it's the end all be all which it isnt. Jeff long literally addressed this. I'm sorry if he didn't say what you wanted him to.
the bcs formula would have had bama above Florida too.
so would the human polls from the pre bcs era.
so like at no point in history would what you are saying have been true.
the bcs formula would have had bama above Florida too.
so would the human polls from the pre bcs era.
so like at no point in history would what you are saying have been true.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:46 am to aspiclark
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but you ppl are saying it's the end all be all which it isnt.
Not saying that.
I'm saying a combination of strength or schedule, quality of loss, and record against common opponents should have Florida a lot closer to Alabama than 5 spots away. Possibly even ahead.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:47 am to aspiclark
OK, since you claim to know the criteria, how is it that Bama earned something that UF didn't also earn?
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:48 am to BayouBengals03
and yet, all the evidence is right there on the Internet and you can't say that under the current system or any other system that has ever existed that what you're saying would have been true so what are you even talking about?
like any of this fricking matters with an sec championship game in the first place.
like any of this fricking matters with an sec championship game in the first place.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:48 am to aspiclark
I kinda agree with your idea, but not with these two specific teams(UF and UA) at this particular point in the season. Right now, I think UF has to be ahead of UA. IMO, the polls are asinine because of Alabama being ranked ahead of them.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:50 am to Fishhead
it's because they have played a better schedule with better wins, better computer rankings, and better human poll rankings. why do I have to keep repeating this?
there is literally nothing except ole miss as a common opponent which wouldn't have made a difference in any of the three systems that have ever existed as we again can clearly see in the human and computer polls.
there is literally nothing except ole miss as a common opponent which wouldn't have made a difference in any of the three systems that have ever existed as we again can clearly see in the human and computer polls.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:51 am to ReauxlTide222
it's fair if you think that but surely you recognize this has nothing to do with the committee. look at the bcs computers and human polls that made up the formula. same result.
it's fine to have a difference of opinion but this is fact.
it's fine to have a difference of opinion but this is fact.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:52 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:Obviously I agree with this, but I'll await Aspiclark's explanation to why Alabama should be ahead of UF. With specifics.
I kinda agree with your idea, but not with these two specific teams(UF and UA) at this particular point in the season. Right now, I think UF has to be ahead of UA. IMO, the polls are asinine because of Alabama being ranked ahead of them.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:52 am to aspiclark
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and yet, all the evidence is right there on the Internet and you can't say that under the current system or any other system that has ever existed that what you're saying would have been true so what are you even talking about?
Actually, under the old BCS system, Florida would be closer to Alabama than they are right now.
According to the current AP Poll, Florida is closer to Alabama than they are in the committee's rankings.
So yeah, what I'm saying is precisely true. There is no reason for Alabama to be 5 spots ahead of Florida. None.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:52 am to Fishhead
I've posted plenty of specifics.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:53 am to BayouBengals03
Alabama would be ranked ahead of Florida in the bcs rankings, that's true.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:53 am to aspiclark
quote:Pretty big effing difference though. One team lost to em at home, the other team skull fricked em at home.
there is literally nothing except ole miss as a common opponent
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:54 am to Fishhead
so you're just going to continue fantasizing about a system that's never existed? that's fine but good luck.
me? id prefer to discuss the way things are and have been.
me? id prefer to discuss the way things are and have been.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:55 am to aspiclark
quote:Where is Alabama's strength of schedule gaining this advantage? Their strength of record? You're tossing out these new "eye test" terms and I'm just trying to find the actual specific evidence...not the terms.
I've posted plenty of specifics
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:55 am to aspiclark
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Alabama would be ranked ahead of Florida in the bcs rankings, that's true.
I've never said differently. Your reading comprehension needs works.
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