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re: Heisman Watch updated ... Manziel leads

Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:58 am to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:58 am to
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And how easy ignorant people forget his performance against #1 alabama





...give it to him.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7901 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:59 am to
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I said 2 of the top 3 games....I understand he played well against Bama. However, padding stats against crap opponents all year and shitting the bed in 3 SEC games shouldnt win you the heisman


You have a point, but who else would it go to?
Posted by BigAggie06
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
952 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:08 am to
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29/56 276 0 3


The lack of TDs is bad but there hasn't been anyone else that productive against LSU and that has to be taken into consideration.

I mean his passing yards is 5 yards less than LSU allows in total yardage. His 303 total yards by himself is more than LSU allow to most teams.

quote:

how about Ole Miss - - -

17/26 191 1 2


You forgot his rushing stats

20 129 6.5 1 38
Posted by Ergo Proxy
College Station, Texas
Member since Aug 2011
62 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:12 am to
People seem to forget the rushing stats. His passing is okay, to slightly better than average. It's the rushing that pushes him into insane levels.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Heisman Watch updated ... Manziel leads


Hope he gets it. JFF is definitely the most valuable player for his team. And though this could be said of a lot of QB's, A&M would definitely be no where close to the same team with him.
Posted by Clay Davis
Baltimore, Maryland
Member since Oct 2012
291 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:16 am to
Worried about Teo...it's an absolute joke that he is even in contention. Manziel has forced more fumbles this season than Teo. Anyone but JFF winning would be a travesty.
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7151 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:18 am to
He deserves it! IMO
Posted by JaboStokes
Member since Nov 2008
1865 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:22 am to
Aggie fans, welcome to SEC fatigue, hatred, and bias. The possibility of the SEC winning another national championship and the Heisman is more than the haters can take.
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
14984 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:24 am to
Te'o hasn't been any better than Damontre. If Donkey Kong Suh didn't get it 3 years ago then some ND LB sure as hell doesn't deserve it. I'm hoping the Trojans pound that arse on Saturday... frick Notre Dame.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17937 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:30 am to
Good.Manziel deserves the Heisman.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21772 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:53 am to
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You have a point, but who else would it go to?


Too bad someone like this cant win it.

AGAINST TAMU
comp att yards comp% TD INT
44 58 450 75.9 5 0

FOR THE SEASON
321 463 3679 69.3 28 2
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:57 am to
so it looks like it's T-Shirt printing time in College Station




Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21772 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:58 am to
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Worried about Teo...it's an absolute joke that he is even in contention. Manziel has forced more fumbles this season than Teo. Anyone but JFF winning would be a travesty.


First off, dont worry about Teo. He has 18 tackles, 0.5 sacks, 1 INT in the last 3 games.

Secondly, don't be a Homer. Manziel did crap against Ole Miss, Florida, and LSU. Yes, he did help his team beat Bama, but there are people like Lee and AJ Mccarron (only cause I wanna see his mom in a hot-arse dress up in New York) that deserve it
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60587 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:10 am to
Kevin Minter:
3 sacks
13.5 TFL
101 tackles
1 forced fumble
1 Int

Heisman runner up
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80097 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:14 am to
Here are Te'O's games:

vs. Navy (7-4): 1 INT, 8 tackles

vs. Purdue (5-6): 10 tackles

at Michigan State (5-6): 1 FR, 12 tackles (1 TFL)

vs. Michigan (7-3): 2 INT, 8 tackles (1 TFL)

vs. Miami (6-5): 10 tackles

vs. Stanford (9-2): 11 tackles

vs. BYU (6-5): 1 INT, 10 tackles (0.5 TFL)

at Oklahoma (8-2): 1 INT, 11 tackles (2 TFL, 1 sack)

vs. Pittsburgh (4-6): 7 tackles (1 TFL, 1 sack)

at Boston College (2-9): 1 INT, 5 tackles

vs. Wake Forest (5-6): 6 tackles

Compare that to Damontre Moore who has:

88 tackles, 20 TFL (12.5 Sack), 1 forced fumble

Jarvis Jones who has:

62 tackles, 18 TFL (10.5 Sack), 1 INT, 6 forced fumbles (in only 10 games)

Jadeveon Clowney who has:

43 tackles, 17 TFL (8.5 Sack), 2 forced fumbles

Posted by BAMAisDIESEL09
Member since Jul 2012
2658 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:16 am to
JFF has my vote. Hes a helluva a player.

Btw, how tall is he really? Looks less than 6' to me.
This post was edited on 11/20/12 at 11:17 am
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7901 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:19 am to
quote:

how tall is he really?


Pretty damn short. Doesn't matter, though. He's Super Midget.
Posted by BAMAisDIESEL09
Member since Jul 2012
2658 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:21 am to
yeah just wondering--ive seen a few pics of him floating around on here and he definitely looks less than 6'. He looks shorter and smaller than Connor Shaw.. not that it really matters... just curious.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80097 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:57 am to
I'm pretty sure he's 6'1. He noticeably taller than Christine Michael who is 5'11.
Posted by BigAggie06
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
952 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 12:13 pm to
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Manziel did crap against Ole Miss, Florida, and LSU.


Over 300 yards and 2 TDs vs Ole Miss and more individual yardage vs LSU than any whole team to that point = doing crap
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