re: Hate to say it, but West Virginia might be a diamond in the rough in the future.

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Since you had to make the same part twice...

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Ok, so you're linking a video where no LSU fan got arrested or even charged.

Meanwhile, I can link, if I chose, incidents with Alabama fans where one Alabama fan murdered another over a loss, Harvey Updike, the teabagger, and the crazy sugar bowl fan...

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y'all are cool, but y'all aren't saints either.

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Compared to Alabama fans? Yeah, we are saints.

Like apples?

Disagree slightly. SEC wants to grow the SECN and the easiest way to do that( other than ESPN charging out the arse for it on a per subscriber basis) is to add teams from states we don't have teams in.

If we're not going to add teams from the ACC where do you suggest we get them? Oklahoma?

I see the BIG being the actor in the round, which will happen eventually. Kansas/Texas/ISU are the AAU schools left in Big 12. Other than Texas (Which may or may not have thE LHN expire by then), I don't see an option for them. They already have Iowa, and Kansas might as well be Iowa TV sets wise.

Seeing as how hey just added Maryland and Rutgers, I say they look East. There are a crapton ton of East Coast AAU schools to choose from (From BC all the way down to GT) just a matter of who they ask and who says yes.

and now that the Braves are tied, I'm no longer bored.

this thread is dead to me.

thanks for the info JesusQ, Cheese Grits and Jefan

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i want to hear your theory on what would be the next two teams and the reasons why.

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a) Until the next round of TV deals I see no expansion of the SEC taking place

b) I can see the PAC taking 2 more teams from the B12 in say 2024 if those 2 teams are say Texas and Oklahoma

c) If the B12 dies it will become another AAC type conference but even then it does not dictate the remaining 4 conferences must go to 16.

d) Between now and then I can see Notre Dame joining the ACC full time and some schools pulling a Tulane and withdrawing from the remaining Power 4 just to not have to keep up with the arms race.

Realignment is about contraction, not expansion, as power schools acting in their own best interest will want to have bigger slices of the pies not smaller ones. University of Chicago was one of the top sports schools (especially college football) before WWII. Instead of staying in the B1G they dropped out to focus on academics and research. While we may mourn the loss of Alonzo Stagg and the college football history it was replaced with a top research institution (remember the Manhattan Project) and a massive endowment now approaching 8 Billion dollars.

20 years from now you may have 4 power conferences with 12 members each and real realignment will be complete. Look at the pro sports and they seem to understand a saturation point is reached then consolidation occurs and things go on from there. Aside from the B1G and SEC, none of the remaining 3 conferences has real staying power from top to bottom.

Realignment is not driven by the fans so when thing about it and and discussing it take off your fan hat and replace it with the hat of a business executive or politician or college president. Those are the guys actually making the calls and unless you think like they do you will get the move wrong every time.

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The SEC would take UNC and UVA in a heartbeat and wouldn't give a frick what the Big 10 did from there.

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You are so wrong on this as you to not really understand just how interconnected the ACC and SEC are. They all share the same DNA going back to the days when Dr Dudley first created the SIAA (interestingly enough, TAMU was a member back then as well, and here they are 100 years later back in the SEC)

It is not always about money. Why do you not understand that?

I bring them up because they are the only schools that are geographically and financially viable.

I agree though. They aren't moving, so therefore, neither is the SEC.

West Virginia is a complete non starter. 0 chance of that happening.

You (Mississippi State) should dump Auburn to the Big 12?

And "Swap for WVU".

Interesting.

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It is not always about money.

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Of course it is. All changes instituted to CFB in the last 10 years or so were 100%, unapologetic money grabs.