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re: Hate to say it, but West Virginia might be a diamond in the rough in the future.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:13 am to cardboardboxer
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:13 am to cardboardboxer
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f Bowden wasn't a pussy, FSU would already be in play.
Think of the way decisions have changed from individuals to conglomerates
1 football coach (Bobby Dodds) got Georgia Tech out of the SEC
1 football coach (Bobby Bowden) kept Free Shoes U out of the SEC
Today no single coach and probably no single AD has that kind of power anymore. Even if Saban or Cal wanted their respective schools out of the SEC it would not happen, same with their respective AD's. Even a lone college president probably does not have that kind of power.
In modern college sports it is a collection of schools, conference staffs, politicians, and corporate folks that make the big moves happen. Absent from the groups are coaches, fans, players, and students who are actually the end producers and consumers of the product created.
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:15 am to Cheese Grits
so this debate continues?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:25 am to JesusQuintana
quote:This. Definitely UNC and whatever makes more sense between UVA/Tech.
The SEC would take UNC and UVA
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:28 am to beaverfever
UNC and Duke do not want into the SEC
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:31 am to Cheese Grits
quote:It's called...MONEY!
Think of the way decisions have changed from individuals to conglomerates 1 football coach (Bobby Dodds) got Georgia Tech out of the SEC 1 football coach (Bobby Bowden) kept Free Shoes U out of the SEC Today no single coach and probably no single AD has that kind of power anymore. Even if Saban or Cal wanted their respective schools out of the SEC it would not happen, same with their respective AD's. Even a lone college president probably does not have that kind of power. In modern college sports it is a collection of schools, conference staffs, politicians, and corporate folks that make the big moves happen. Absent from the groups are coaches, fans, players, and students who are actually the end producers and consumers of the product created.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:36 am to tiger perry
quote:..nor should they be in. They are 2 totally different types of athletic/educational environments. They're what the ACC stands for, just like Ala., LSU. Georgia, etc. are to the SEC.
UNC and Duke do not want into the SEC
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:37 am to BowlJackson
One day you may get your head out of yiur arse
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:40 am to Mister Tee
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's one thing to have 2 Border States in the SEC.. (Kentucky and Mizzou) BTW...These border states have stars on the Stars and Bars so they are cool in my book. Anyway, WV was born out of that area of Virginia separating from Virginia when Virginia became a Confederate State. H to the N.... They are PURE YANKEE TRASH.. I am not a racist.... 
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:11 am to Cheese Grits
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In modern college sports it is a collection of schools, conference staffs, politicians, and corporate folks that make the big moves happen.
And then there is the Big 12 where a single AD can hijack/lead the whole process.
I do agree with your point though, the stakes have never been higher and that means it isn't a casual decision.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:12 am to WeeWee
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WVU fans make the gumps look like rich passengers from the Titanic
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:28 am to cardboardboxer
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WVU fans make the gumps look like rich passengers from the Titanic
I went to Morgantown in 2011 for the LSU game....there is considerable truth in this statement...
If the SEC expands, it needs to go to a larger TV market, WVU doesn't provide it...
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:42 am to cardboardboxer
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And then there is the Big 12 where a single AD can hijack/lead the whole process.
It really never was the B12, it is still 1 school running the other 11, er 10, er, 9 er 8, er 9
Well you know what I mean.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:43 am to Cheese Grits
I propose the B12 change their name to the Little 10.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:58 am to dbeck
I would wholeheartedly support adding fricking Louisville to the SEC over West Virginia. That's how awful they are.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:07 am to dbeck
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I propose the B12 change their name to the Little 10.
When the B1G was at 12 and the Big 12 first went to ten the Big 12 looked into trading brand names and the B1G was like
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:08 am to UKWildcats
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I would wholeheartedly support adding fricking Louisville to the SEC over West Virginia. That's how awful they are.
I would take OU and Kansas first, and the idea of OU in the SEC crushes my soul.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:16 pm to coachcrisp
NC State makes too much sense.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:44 pm to Mister Tee
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I am telling you, you will regret passing on them.
I'm sensing that the vast majority of this board is willing to take that risk.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:47 pm to WeeWee
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. WVU fans make the gumps look like rich passengers from the Titanic
Posted on 6/3/15 at 1:06 pm to Mister Tee
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It is not always about money. Why do you not understand that?
then stop using words/phrases like "value" and "delivers the whole state" you dolt. Those are economic words.
You've created a metric to which nobody else adheres or even understands and are now trying to have a serious conversation about it.
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