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Posted on 8/27/13 at 4:37 pm to cardboardboxer
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And then they got the death penalty when Texas's death ray of pissedness got pointed at them.
How old are you? Seriously!?!?!
SMU had been put on relatively mild probation in the early 80s, and kept on truckin', cheating-wise.
The reason I am chiming in is that the proof that ultimately got SMU the death penalty was uncovered by WFAA Channel 8 in Dallas, and specifically, Dale Hansen - you might know him, he is NOT a Texas fan by any stretch of the imagination. He's a MotherShucker (Nebraska).
A linebacker named David Stanley had the paper trail and laid it out for Ch. 8. Then Ch. 8 got the SMU admins, coach and some trustees in a room together and confronted them with the evidence that they had not slowed down their slush fund - which was overseen by the Texas Governor, Bill Clements, an SMU alum.
The video of Hansen throwing the proof on the table was something else (I can't find it online). They all looked like they had just been served a shite sandwich. It was classic "gotcha" journalism.
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{David) Stanley admitted to the NCAA and then to WFAA that SMU paid him $25,000 to sign with the university and paid him a monthly salary.
WFAA’s investigation eventually led to revelations of several letters from SMU to Stanley’s family. These letters were post marked October 1985, while they were on their current sanctions.
Dale Hansen confronted university officials about what was in the envelopes. Recruiting coordinator Henry Lee Parker, on television, admitted that the envelope was his… but then said this about the writing on the envelope:
“No, this is printed… I don’t write that way.”
It is always the details that catch up to you in something like this.
On 12 November 1986, eight days after Bill Clements won the gubernatorial race, WFAA aired a 40-minute special about these recent allegations that included interviews with Stanley and his family, investigators, and SMU officials. The NCAA was alarmed by these allegations.
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Dallas Morning News from 1987
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:06 pm to Legend13
The devil went down to A&M He was looking for a soul to steal.
He was in a bind, 'cause he was way behind 'cause Auburn quit making deals.
When he came upon this big nosed young man riding the pine.
And the devil said boy let me tell ya what, I can get ya playing time if some footballs for me you will sign.
He was in a bind, 'cause he was way behind 'cause Auburn quit making deals.
When he came upon this big nosed young man riding the pine.
And the devil said boy let me tell ya what, I can get ya playing time if some footballs for me you will sign.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:09 pm to azcatiger
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With ATM its all about the hypocrisy of the whole thing. Honor Code, the Core, etc..etc. If they did not pull the holier than all "Urban Meyer" thing no one would really care so much. But since they are cult like and this goes against their "Honor Code"(I just threw up in my mouth)it's absolutely laughable.
So. Many. Tears.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:13 pm to LoneStarRodAndRifle
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2/10
Looking like you got that one wrong.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:14 pm to Legend13
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Now it looks like their so called values are taking a "back seat" to winning and trying to be competitive and keeping up with the top tier programs in the SEC
So what your saying is they're intent on acting just like every other school in the conference.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:15 pm to texashorn
Charles Allen Wright.
Case Closed.
Case Closed.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:20 pm to KaiserSoze99
Wright was not on the infractions committee in 1986.
Same question for you... how old are you? 20s? 30s? You are just recycling aggie propaganda.
By the way, his middle name is spelled ALAN.
Same question for you... how old are you? 20s? 30s? You are just recycling aggie propaganda.
By the way, his middle name is spelled ALAN.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:21 pm to Maroon Flash
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Last time I checked our forefathers sacrificed a lot so we would have a country where people are innocent until proven guilty.
The presumption applies only in criminal cases. Manziel isn't charged with a crime, thus there is no legal presumption of innocence involved. Individuals certainly are under no requirement with respect to forming opinions about guilt or innocence to wait on formal, legal proofs of guilt. Outside of the legal system or "quasi-legal" processes, people rarely operate on this principle.
In my opinion, he is probably guilty. If he were innocent, it would be a simple matter for the autograph dealer to say, "I didn't pay him any money, end of story." But the silence or refusal to talk is telling. Honorable people with knowledge of the facts wouldn't let an innocent man drown in a sea of innuendo and character assassination. The silence might not be proof for legal purposes, or even for the NCAA, but the implication remains pretty strong.
At this point, unless one of the dealers talks to the NCAA, nothing is likely to happen. But that doesn't mean I have to think he is innocent of breaking the rules when things don't seem to pass the smell test.
I hope he isn't guilty. That would be the simplest and best solution. My common sense says that he probably is guilty. But unless or until there is some actual evidence (like confirmation by a dealer), I won't quarrel with a decision to let him play.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:23 pm to Legend13
Glass houses and stuff, etc
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:29 pm to Legend13
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Has A&M Sold Their Soul?
Who, these guys? That soul was sold a long time ago
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:32 pm to KaiserSoze99
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re: Has A&M Sold Their Soul? (Posted on 8/27/13 at 3:14 pm to Legend13) Sold it. We have no ethics or morals. Win at all costs and I don't give a damn. Eff all of you. ------ Glorious Absence of Sophistication
Now that is the spirit! Fellow SEC'ers, I think A&M is ready for initiation. They have been a good pledge.
Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Arkansas, put the paddle to them.
A&M is a bunch of cheats like the rest of us. Gaw shucks !
Now, those mizzou boys, ain't sure about them yet.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:37 pm to bamaoldtimer
Why is Alabama so scared of Johnny Manziel? I don't get it. He is just one player in a team sport. 
You're better than that Bama...
You're better than that Bama...
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:58 pm to Legend13
An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal, or tolerate those who do.
Thanks and gig 'em
Thanks and gig 'em
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:04 pm to TeLeFaWx
Can Mizzou cheat??
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:05 pm to Legend13
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A&M talked up about their so called "school values" before entering the SEC...Now it looks like their so called values are taking a "back seat" to winning
like people that tell you how religious they are or how honest they are. if they have the need to tell others that its because others can't discern it on their own. they are tpos just like the rest of us.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:06 pm to LSU GrandDad
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they are tpos just like the rest of us.
Damn straight.
Y'all dumb for thinking otherwise
so gullibleThis post was edited on 8/27/13 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:06 pm to Legend13
Glass houses gump.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:08 pm to azcatiger
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the Core
This some kind of movie? Are we drilling to the center of the earth to save mankind?
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:09 pm to TeLeFaWx
Honor code : this is for the Corps of Cadets. We are talking SEC Football here.
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