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Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
10276 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:56 pm to
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Then when the new coach has success in his first year they can brag about how he did it with Anderson's players.

What'll make it funnier is that MA's replacement will be Haith.
Posted by MIZSEC
Columbia, MO
Member since Nov 2011
32 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:58 pm to
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What'll make it funnier is that MA's replacement will be Haith.


Posted by cityhog
Member since Nov 2010
313 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:58 pm to
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Get the talent and watch him win. Keep failing on talent and commence the coaching search.


I agree with your entire post for the most part. MA's ability to recruit and then DEVELOP that talent is why I happen to think we will be looking for another HC in 4 years.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:59 pm to
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What'll make it funnier is that MA's replacement will be Haith.


Too bad he'll have a Show Cause slapped on him by the NCAA before he gets that chance to step up to Arkansas. The Nevin Shapiro stuff at Miami will eventually catch up to his shady azz.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:06 pm to
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I agree with your entire post for the most part. MA's ability to recruit and then DEVELOP that talent is why I happen to think we will be looking for another HC in 4 years.


Player development in NCAA basketball is really not the issue. For the most part, you need to pick them up as Freshmen on Day 1 with the talent to dominate. Because of the AAU system, that's much more possible in hoops.

Give me a list of players who developed their skill sets considerably under Nolan from Day 1 to the day they left. I love Nolan, but I can't think of too many. Now...did they gain an understanding of the traps and the defense over time? Yes they did. But as for developing their skill sets, Nolan didn't really do that either. The key - and not just at Arkansas in the 40 minutes of hell scheme - is to get the top talent. Better players win more than inferior players. Regardless of the coach. Regardless of the system. Like Larry Johnson told Nolan...we better get us some men.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36109 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:09 pm to
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Yes, that is what I so long for LSU fan. I'm sure respectability with an occasional good year would settle just fine with you if we were talking about Miles and LSU football. GFY.



that's what he did at Missouri - if Arkansas fans didn't want this they shouldn't have hired him
Posted by cityhog
Member since Nov 2010
313 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:21 pm to
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that's what he did at Missouri - if Arkansas fans didn't want this they shouldn't have hired him


You're an LSU fan so I'll forgive you're lack of reading comprehension. If I could sign it for you in your hand a la Helen Keller I would.

I
DID
NOT
WANT
TO
HIRE
MIKE
This post was edited on 3/8/12 at 4:24 pm
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40865 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:35 pm to
Please go back to hogville. You're kind is not welcome here.

Thanks and please remember to tip your waiter.
Posted by cityhog
Member since Nov 2010
313 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:36 pm to
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Please go back to hogville


You mean homerville? The MA love is even more nauseating over there than it is here, I like it here fine.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40865 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:42 pm to
Then man up and stop whining like a three year old about a coach that's only been here one year. Your schtick is just as bad as those on hogville.
This post was edited on 3/8/12 at 4:42 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65776 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:45 pm to
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Then man up and stop whining like a three year old about a coach that's only been here one year. Your schtick is just as bad as those on hogville.


This.
Posted by cityhog
Member since Nov 2010
313 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:45 pm to
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Then man up and stop whining like a three year old about a coach that's only been here one year. Your schtick is just as bad as those on hogville


Year one, year 5. The song will remain the same.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:50 pm to
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Year one, year 5. The song will remain the same.


Serious questions: Do you hope this is the case, or would you prefer that MA find success here? Or is it so important that you were "right" in opposing his hire that you would take pleasure in the Hogs failing?

I know that by Year 3, I felt Pelphrey would never get it done, and we needed to fire him, and I stated that publicly. However, I desperately hoped I was wrong and he would have a breakthrough and we would not have to make another hire for a long time.
Posted by pdiddy
Clear H2O, FL
Member since Nov 2011
277 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:52 pm to
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Too bad he'll have a Show Cause slapped on him by the NCAA before he gets that chance to step up to Arkansas.


Seriously dude? I hate to break it to you, but it's 2012. That banner that you cling so tightly to is getting a little dusty. Arky is no where near the "step up" from Mizzou. Put the parachute pants back in the drawer, brother.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40865 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:55 pm to
True, its probably just a half step up at this point.
Posted by pdiddy
Clear H2O, FL
Member since Nov 2011
277 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:58 pm to
c'mon Chesh.........you don't really believe that.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 4:59 pm to
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Seriously dude? I hate to break it to you, but it's 2012. That banner that you cling so tightly to is getting a little dusty. Arky is no where near the "step up" from Mizzou. Put the parachute pants back in the drawer, brother.


Let's talk about the ceiling for both programs. Arkansas, as has been demonstrated by multiple Final Fours and a National Championship, has an unlimited ceiling. Going by ALL of history, Misurah has the ceiling of Elite 8.

Arkansas also has facilities, resources and fan base in basketball that Misurah can't touch. the Misurah arena is newer, but smaller. Bud Walton is still one of the premiere on-campus arenas in the nation.

Arkansas is without a doubt a step up from Misurah.
Posted by pdiddy
Clear H2O, FL
Member since Nov 2011
277 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:06 pm to
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Misurah


What, are you 12?

Well, Notre Dame USED TO be a National Championship caliber football program. Things change, and "premiere on-campus arenas" don't win ball games (see Duke).

I'll take the trajectory that Mizzou is on, as opposed Arkansas.

Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65776 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:07 pm to
Missouri fans think one good regular season in which they still finished behind Kansas makes them a power.

I can't wait for them to return to shite next year.

Enjoy your 1 season boys, better make it count and not bow out in the Sweet 16 or Round of 32.
Posted by cityhog
Member since Nov 2010
313 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 5:08 pm to
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Serious questions: Do you hope this is the case, or would you prefer that MA find success here? Or is it so important that you were "right" in opposing his hire that you would take pleasure in the Hogs failing?

I know that by Year 3, I felt Pelphrey would never get it done, and we needed to fire him, and I stated that publicly. However, I desperately hoped I was wrong and he would have a breakthrough and we would not have to make another hire for a long time.


I hope I'm wrong, because I really don't want to wait ANOTHER 5 years to be relevant again. What I hope, and what I believe in my gut are two very different things.
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