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Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:24 pm to Hawgeye
Indeed.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:33 pm to Hawgeye
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Nolan sucked his first year. Won 13 games. We should have fired him.
Since I'm too lazy to google his recruiting classes, I'll just ask here - when did Huery get to campus? Was it Nolan's second year? He was the guy who opened up the talent pipeline and really got us moving in the right direction.
I don't see a Huery in this class, but maybe it's just because I'm not familiar with the guys we've got committed. The days of being able to win with a particular scheme or system when you're out-manned are long gone. Gotta have better players. Plain and simple.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:35 pm to BenHOGan
I think he has thurman recruiting memphis now. 
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:36 pm to 870Hog
I had to leave for a bit...I let this dude make me seriously mad. I'm PMSing though so I have a good reason.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:38 pm to 870Hog
The truth is we don't know how MA will end up doing at Arky. He seems to have a good background that should increase his chance at success though. He needs a couple of recruiting cycles to tell one way or another though. He will probably be just fine.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:38 pm to DC RaiseHerBack
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..I let this dude make me seriously mad.
It's not all that serious
and sorry for upsetting you by speaking the truth
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:38 pm to 870Hog
I have no idea how Scotty is as a recruiter. I was in grad school in communication while he and Corliss were comm majors up there. Saw them quite a bit and like them a lot.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:41 pm to stapuffmarshy
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It's not all that serious
and sorry for upsetting you by speaking the truth
Don't flatter yourself. I wasn't talking about you.
It irritates me when fellow Hog fans are so dumb.
This post was edited on 3/8/12 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:43 pm to cityhog
That's how the Flagship rollz, BAYB33!!11!!11!!
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:43 pm to Hawgeye
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If u were around for Nolans first couple of years, did u want him fired too for being a terrible team?
I'd like an honest answer and expect reasoning to why your opinion differs on Richardson and Anderson. Anderson has a better D1 resume than Nolan when Nolan took the job.
I addressed this in an earlier post. I was 18 years old in Nolan's first season. We had just lost a legend of a coach in Eddie. Nolan's first season while BEYOND bad, had glimpses of what he was trying to do. He did not have the PROPER personell to impliment his style. THAT was obvious. What was also obvious was this was a style that was new and exciting, something unseen in the SWC.
Now, flash forward to Pel. He wanted run the up tempo hawgball as well, so he recruited the correct kind of players for MA to come in and plug and play. Nolan did not have that luxury.
I beg to differ on their resumes. Nolan had won everywhere he had been. JUCO NC, NIT Champ, NCAA appearances. Everyone says but MA has an Elite 8. You know who else has an Elite 8 as a HC. Stan Heath, which is pretty much why we hired him. That and to give the appearance that Broyles wasn't racist.
This is not 1985. You didn't fire coaches after 1 season then, and you don't now. BUT, if you think I'm howling this year wait until we suck air again next year.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:45 pm to DC RaiseHerBack
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Don't flatter yourself. I wasn't talking about you.
I wasn't, not here to upset people....most of the time
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It irritates me when fellow Hog fans are so dumb.
now you know how we feel.....and all of us have the morons
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:46 pm to DC RaiseHerBack
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Don't flatter yourself. I wasn't talking about you.
It irritates me when fellow Hog fans are so dumb.
Yes, by all means if I don't agree with you I'm dumb. Jesus.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:47 pm to stapuffmarshy
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now you know how we feel.....and all of us have the morons
I know
This used to be my safe zone...I don't go to or post on Hogville. Now I have to listen to it here too.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:49 pm to cityhog
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only 4 more seasons of shitty basketball, then we can get a new head coach.
we really ought to have a premature ejaculations board around here - its too soon to deem MA a failure. I don't think he'll bring Arky to the top of the SEC but I do think he'll bring them to respectability with an occasional very good year
and the only fanbase who should really be trolling Arky for this atm is probably Missouri
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:49 pm to DC RaiseHerBack
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This used to be my safe zone...I don't go to or post on Hogville
You'd be ok over there. The MA love is nauseating.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:51 pm to cityhog
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You'd be ok over there. The MA love is nauseating.
I'm not a straight homer. I'm just not a dummy and I refuse to surround myself with them.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:51 pm to cityhog
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only 4 more seasons of shitty basketball, then we can get a new head coach.
Then when the new coach has success in his first year they can brag about how he did it with Anderson's players.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:53 pm to molsusports
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I don't think he'll bring Arky to the top of the SEC but I do think he'll bring them to respectability with an occasional very good year
Yes, that is what I so long for LSU fan. I'm sure respectability with an occasional good year would settle just fine with you if we were talking about Miles and LSU football. GFY.
Posted on 3/8/12 at 3:53 pm to cityhog
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Now, flash forward to Pel. He wanted run the up tempo hawgball as well, so he recruited the correct kind of players for MA to come in and plug and play. Nolan did not have that luxury.
This roster would not stack up very well against the teams in the Sunbelt. MA has the exact same hindrance in Year 1 as NR did. Add to it that we started the year with 9 scholarship players and lost one to injury before Game 3.
The players to run MA's system are NOT here. We don't have the long guys at the 2/3 like Todd Day, Lenzie Howell, Roger Crawford, etc...guys who could play the top of that press and frustrate opponents into turnovers in buckets. We don't have the inside presence like Mario Credit, Oliver Miller, Dwight Stewart, Corliss, Alonzo Lane, who could play with their backs to the basket and get the tough rebounds and points in the paint. We don't have a sharpshooter like Dillard, Thurman, Day, Mayberry, Pargo, or even Warren Linn or Cannon Whitby to shoot over zones. We don't have a defensive stopper with a huge heart like Corey Beck, Clint McD, Truck Bowers, Robert Shepherd to clamp down the opponent's top scorer. There is very, very little on this roster to work with. Getting 18 wins out of this group was a good season. BJ Young, Hunter Mickelson and Marshawn Powell are the only guys who could start on any of the other 10 teams in the league not named Kentucky.
Depth and talent were just not there. Look at the roster. Notice I didn't blame youth. KY is winning with youth, so the right youth can win.
MA's system will win today. As will any system with superior players. He's just got to get them here. That's where his legacy here at Arkansas will be set. Get the talent and watch him win. Keep failing on talent and commence the coaching search.
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