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re: "Ghosts of Ole Miss"
Posted on 10/31/12 at 10:09 am to DCRebel
Posted on 10/31/12 at 10:09 am to DCRebel
the issue at Alcorn had way more to do with trying to maintain a subpar backwoods way of doing things. The SWAC schools are a lifeboat for underperforming black coaches because the expectations aren't that high there. They felt their "livelihood" is in danger. That's why they were outraged. Not because the Alcorn coach is white. If he does well then all the SWAC schools will want to follow this pattern. Then the old guard SWAC coaches will be busted back to JC/HS ranks
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 10:11 am
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 10:20 am to AlaTiger
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It was not a hit piece. It was what happened. And, it was a big deal.
I am a born and raised Southerner, but honestly, I get pretty sick of white people saying that we should shut up about it because all of that is behind us and we aren't that way anymore.
White people in the South have been saying the exact same thing since around 1965. And, the idea that that generation didn't know any better is completely bogus. They knew better. They just convinced themselves that the rest of the world was wrong and they were right.
It comes down to only a few options when you look at all of our schools and the South back then. And, yes, I am talking about my parent and grandparents. Either,
1. We were stupid and didn't know any better.
2. We were a pathological society that was incapable of knowning right from wrong.
3. We knew better but didn't care because it benefitted us and as soon as it didn't benefit us, we stopped.
4. We were so prideful as to think that even though we were wrong, we were above it all because we were the glorious South.
I'm no carpetbagger. My ancestors fought in the Civil War and owned slaves. But, at some point, we need to recognize that talking about this is not bad. It is healthy.
Actually, everytime I hear a White person get upset because this stuff gets brought up, I know I am dealing with someone who does not want to deal with what has happened and the real implications for today.
Excellent analysis.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 10:25 am to MaroonNation
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the issue at Alcorn had way more to do with trying to maintain a subpar backwoods way of doing things. The SWAC schools are a lifeboat for underperforming black coaches because the expectations aren't that high there. They felt their "livelihood" is in danger. That's why they were outraged. Not because the Alcorn coach is white.
Like I said, it's resistance to change. They didn't wanna rock the boat.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 10:43 am to DCRebel
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Like I said, it's resistance to change. They didn't wanna rock the boat.
Hell after watching that about Alcorn St on ESPN I knew how some white people felt about a group of people representing them. Hell ESPN even interviewed some black professor, he said some shite about "OUR history, culture, etc.". You can tell he was a bit racist.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 10:51 am to MaroonNation
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Most of Texas behaves the same way towards Mexicans. A former girlfriend of mines sister married a Mexican when the lived in Dallas. They were shunned the same way interracial couples in most of the South are.
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people in TX evidently see all Mexicans the same. The way it compares is that TX is no paradise of racial harmony.
I'm calling you out. That is total bullshite. absolute horseshite. Most of Texas?
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 10:52 am
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:02 am to Cdawg
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Most of Texas behaves the same way towards Mexicans. A former girlfriend of mines sister married a Mexican when the lived in Dallas. They were shunned the same way interracial couples in most of the South are.
My girlfriend is from Texas and though this is a very bold comparison, there are similarities. Though not to the same extent by any means.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:12 am to MaroonNation
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people in TX evidently see all Mexicans the same.
Horse shite, I'm from the valley and essentially consider myself Mexican FWIW, you can't paint people with a broad brush.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:13 am to MontanaMax
Has there ever been a movement to rename Ross Barnett lake?
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:14 am to Rebelgator
I'm still mad I missed this last night. I searched to see when it was coming back on and didn't find it 
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:28 am to AUnite
Comes on tonight at 9 EST on ESPN.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:29 am to Rebelgator
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Comes on tonight at 9 EST on ESPN.
Thanks
ill DVR it, cause ill be watching horror movies tonight Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:38 am to Rebelgator
It's the Ross Barnett Reservoir actually
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:40 am to MaroonNation
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Ross Barnett Reservoir
It's a large body of water with alligators named after an awful human being. They need to rename it.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:42 am to Cdawg
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I'm calling you out. That is total bullshite. absolute horseshite. Most of Texas?
I'm saying the people in TX that you could qualify as "racist" tend to view Mexicans in the same light as southerners whose hate is directed towards black people. Either way they are both racist. I was just offering objection to a Texan saying that Mississippi is different. He implied Texas does not have that issue. I have seen from personal experience that they do
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 11:49 am
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:44 am to Rebelgator
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Has there ever been a movement to rename Ross Barnett lake?
There absolutely should be.
That was an evil human being that deserves nothing to be named after him unless its something terrible like a prostate exam. The Ross Barnett Exam.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:46 am to Rebelgator
They should call it what it is. The Pearl River Reservoir. But then all the people in Flowood and Madison county wouldn't like it because they would have to include "Pearl" in their location.
When you say you live "at the reservoir" it carries a certain degree of clout
When you say you live "at the reservoir" it carries a certain degree of clout
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:47 am to TheCaterpillar
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That was an evil human being that deserves nothing to be named after him unless its something terrible like a prostate exam. The Ross Barnett Exam.
Trust me. His brother was twice the SOB Ross ever thought about being.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 12:01 pm to MaroonNation
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When you say you live "at the reservoir" it carries a certain degree of clout
Then rename it the Medgar Evers resevior.
The fact that SOB has anything other than the worlds largest shite named after him is just wrong. They left out how Barnett pulled that stunt during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Fun fact, JFK had Oxford included in the possible targets of the Soviets.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 12:02 pm to MaroonNation
"You can take the girl out of Pearl, but you can't take Pearl out of the girl." I didn't understand why people made fun of Pearl until I had to go to a wedding there last year. Now I do.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 12:04 pm to Rebelgator
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Then rename it the Medgar Evers resevior
It's Medgar Wiley Evers. Get it right. After all, they're going to spend a ton of money to change the airport name.
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 12:05 pm
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