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re: "Ghosts of Ole Miss"
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:32 am to DCRebel
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:32 am to DCRebel
I wish I had an image if the ole miss Halloween shirt I saw the other day.
It was AkRebBear dressed up with a bed sheet over his head. He was suppose to be a ghost, but due to his attire he had a rather pointy head. Whether it was on purpose or not I 'd.
It was AkRebBear dressed up with a bed sheet over his head. He was suppose to be a ghost, but due to his attire he had a rather pointy head. Whether it was on purpose or not I 'd.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:35 am to DCRebel
Yeah it's amazing that the delta is still a shithole of an area economically speaking but Thompson keeps getting reelected because he feeds his stupid arse constituents every 4 years just before elections.
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 8:37 am
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:37 am to RebelExpress38
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I was expecting it to be an awesome perspective about the football team for 60 minutes with a ton of great interviews and newly uncovered facts, but instead it was wright Thompson filming himself writing on a pad and thinking about if that guy in the picture was his relative. Is he serious? He wasn't even at the riots and didn't go to ole miss. Nobody cares about your little side stories.
an "awesome perspective" about an om football team in the 60's...without the racial storyline is lame bro. nobody cares. He is telling a story to a national audience. FWIW, i enjoyed the way he tried to relate the struggle b/t the past, present, and how mississippi is trying to move forward. it is a difficult issue to tackle and wright did a good job.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:40 am to DCRebel
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I guess they wanted to sortof show how one person can approach the situation? I dunno.
That's why I didn't like it. They talked about the football team for 10% of it and added nothing new. This was an espn 30 for 30, not a personal story time for someone who didn't even go to Ole Miss. What makes his opinion so special? I'm happy that he is a good writer and all, but beyond his cool camera shots and nice editing skills, that film left a lot to be desired.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:43 am to LandBearShark
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The guy who wrote the article was from Oxford. The Director was not. The director controls the direction of the film. Northerner promoting controversy.
I'm black, if anything the film helps Ole Miss. It told the history of students fighting in the War, why they have the mascot, name "rebels", etc.
Most people including myself probably thought the team back then was full of a bunch of racists. I had no idea they stayed away from the riots, controversy, etc. The film probably make people show a little more respect to those Ole Miss teams from back in the day. How they pulled together and continue to win with all the negativity around them.
Then he mentioned how the black population on campus is like 16-17%. Some people probably thought the only blacks that went to Ole Miss were the athletes.
The black girl mentioned how she only had one incident, how everybody else is nice to her, etc. Showed clips of blacks walking on campus, normal campus just like any other university.
If anything it'll help Ole Miss. More people will probably respect the school, football program, etc. More people understand the History of the School, name, etc.
There was nothing but positive things about the Ole Miss football team that got screwed by the voters because of the incidents.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:45 am to CreoleGumbo
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an "awesome perspective" about an om football team in the 60's...without the racial storyline is lame bro. nobody cares. He is telling a story to a national audience. FWIW, i enjoyed the way he tried to relate the struggle b/t the past, present, and how mississippi is trying to move forward. it is a difficult issue to tackle and wright did a good job.
I agree, like I said the film helps Ole Miss, more people will respect the teams from the 60's.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:48 am to MaroonNation
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Can someone produce a link to this footage. I have heard several times from OM people that this happened and people videoed it on their phones but I have yet to see it and can't find it on YouTube
Ole Miss people vs KKK
Guy should have showed this in the film. There's some cussing.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:50 am to bayou2003
The only thing that really bothered me was he left out the KKK at the LSU game and Chucky Mullins story.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:50 am to CreoleGumbo
Well, I can honestly say I lived through this having been in Laurel(l962-64) and my wife being from Mississippi. Also, we had many problems in and around the Laurel area during that time. I know quite a few people who did some serious jail time during this period. This is the second time I have seen this in the past few years(or,another one just like it). I was confused when he mentioned Billy Cannon's famous run during the 1962 season. I must have misunderstood as Cannon made that run on haloween night, 1959?
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:51 am to bayou2003
I was there screaming at the KKK people. I am on a couple of the videos. I was wasted at 8 AM though
There was this black marine there that was being having to be held back from wrecking those fools. Everyone was booing. It was a freedom of speech statement by some morons that was protected by our constitution and the national guard and the police and 100% of the Ole Miss fanbase was against it.
Those KKK morons weren't Ole Miss fans and weren't associated with the university at all.
There was this black marine there that was being having to be held back from wrecking those fools. Everyone was booing. It was a freedom of speech statement by some morons that was protected by our constitution and the national guard and the police and 100% of the Ole Miss fanbase was against it.
Those KKK morons weren't Ole Miss fans and weren't associated with the university at all.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:54 am to CreoleGumbo
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an "awesome perspective" about an om football team in the 60's...without the racial storyline is lame bro.
Yeah that's not what I said. I wish that's all they would've focused on. Don't know how you thought I wanted them to leave out 1962 details. I wanted more. I feel like I learned more about thompson's life than the riots and the football team.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:55 am to TheCaterpillar
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I was there screaming at the KKK people. I am on a couple of the videos. I was wasted at 8 AM though
There was this black marine there that was being having to be held back from wrecking those fools. Everyone was booing. It was a freedom of speech statement by some morons that was protected by our constitution and the national guard and the police and 100% of the Ole Miss fanbase was against it.
Those KKK morons weren't Ole Miss fans and weren't associated with the university at all.
He's in the clip I posted.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:55 am to TheCaterpillar
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Those KKK morons weren't Ole Miss fans and weren't associated with the university at all.
They were too goddamned dumb to know that the people they would encounter that day would be drunk and angry.
The KKK is nothing but a handful of stupid rednecks. I mean that literally. They are stupid, poor, white, rural pieces of shite who are literally too stupid to understand just how fricking stupid they are. I pity them more than anything.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:58 am to TheCaterpillar
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TheCaterpillar
I remember that guy, he was awesome. I remember thinking it would probably take the entire police squad to keep him from doing something had those kkk guys said something back to him.
I'm still really surprised they were allowed on campus at that time. All the drunk people were such a huge safety hazard for them. But I'm glad that everyone bonded together against them. I doubt theyll ever come back because of that.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 9:02 am to Cdawg
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This isn't just with MS. It's separated b/c the majority whites usually choose to have their own private homecoming, prom, etc. at the country club or Lion's Den and the blacks typically just got to the school sponsored ones which are open to all.
Hell some of the blacks are racist. I can remember ESPN did the piece about Alcorn State's first white HC. I believe it was "Outside The Lines". Said how the older blacks was pretty much pissed about it. I felt sorry for the guy. He's qualified, coached at schools like Michigan and some others. He's from Mississippi, wants to go home to Mississippi and Coach and people don't want him there because he's white.
I was shocked that shite was going on. A white guy wanting to coach at a SWAC or MEAC school is a GOOD thing. They just don't get it.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 9:15 am to RebelExpress38
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I feel like I learned more about thompson's life than the riots and the football team.
dude, he is telling "his" story. if you want more, go write and produce your own version.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 9:16 am to bayou2003
I don't agree with it but it's like stories of our grandparents who still hate the Japanese. Some people never get over it.
My family wasn't/isn't like that, thank goodness.
My family wasn't/isn't like that, thank goodness.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 9:43 am to Scrapnutz39
It was not a hit piece. It was what happened. And, it was a big deal.
I am a born and raised Southerner, but honestly, I get pretty sick of white people saying that we should shut up about it because all of that is behind us and we aren't that way anymore.
White people in the South have been saying the exact same thing since around 1965. And, the idea that that generation didn't know any better is completely bogus. They knew better. They just convinced themselves that the rest of the world was wrong and they were right.
It comes down to only a few options when you look at all of our schools and the South back then. And, yes, I am talking about my parent and grandparents. Either,
1. We were stupid and didn't know any better.
2. We were a pathological society that was incapable of knowning right from wrong.
3. We knew better but didn't care because it benefitted us and as soon as it didn't benefit us, we stopped.
4. We were so prideful as to think that even though we were wrong, we were above it all because we were the glorious South.
I'm no carpetbagger. My ancestors fought in the Civil War and owned slaves. But, at some point, we need to recognize that talking about this is not bad. It is healthy.
Actually, everytime I hear a White person get upset because this stuff gets brought up, I know I am dealing with someone who does not want to deal with what has happened and the real implications for today.
I am a born and raised Southerner, but honestly, I get pretty sick of white people saying that we should shut up about it because all of that is behind us and we aren't that way anymore.
White people in the South have been saying the exact same thing since around 1965. And, the idea that that generation didn't know any better is completely bogus. They knew better. They just convinced themselves that the rest of the world was wrong and they were right.
It comes down to only a few options when you look at all of our schools and the South back then. And, yes, I am talking about my parent and grandparents. Either,
1. We were stupid and didn't know any better.
2. We were a pathological society that was incapable of knowning right from wrong.
3. We knew better but didn't care because it benefitted us and as soon as it didn't benefit us, we stopped.
4. We were so prideful as to think that even though we were wrong, we were above it all because we were the glorious South.
I'm no carpetbagger. My ancestors fought in the Civil War and owned slaves. But, at some point, we need to recognize that talking about this is not bad. It is healthy.
Actually, everytime I hear a White person get upset because this stuff gets brought up, I know I am dealing with someone who does not want to deal with what has happened and the real implications for today.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 9:49 am to Scrapnutz39
I am 25 years old and have never heard of this story (now I finally know why Billy Joel referenced Ole Miss in "We Didn't Start the Fire").
Enjoyed the documentary fully. Glad that light was shed on that moment in history.
(I fully understand that this was not just the way of Mississippi but all the southern states.)
Enjoyed the documentary fully. Glad that light was shed on that moment in history.
(I fully understand that this was not just the way of Mississippi but all the southern states.)
Posted on 10/31/12 at 10:02 am to bayou2003
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Hell some of the blacks are racist. I can remember ESPN did the piece about Alcorn State's first white HC. I believe it was "Outside The Lines". Said how the older blacks was pretty much pissed about it. I felt sorry for the guy. He's qualified, coached at schools like Michigan and some others. He's from Mississippi, wants to go home to Mississippi and Coach and people don't want him there because he's white.
It just shows that people are really uncomfortable with change. It's sad and it's one of our biggest flaws as a group.
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