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re: "Ghosts of Ole Miss"

Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:01 am to
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:01 am to
I thought it did a good job in showing the progress the University has made.

It probably didn't resonate in all parts of the country but a black female SGA President, who is also a member of an all white sorority is a pretty big deal. It's unfortunate that it is a big deal, but it is what it is.
Posted by LandBearShark
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:03 am to
The guy who wrote the article was from Oxford. The Director was not. The director controls the direction of the film. Northerner promoting controversy.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:04 am to
I enjoyed it. Very well done.

That needed to be told, but it just happened to be at Ole Miss. Ole Miss and Mississippi could have been switched for many other SEC schools and states. 50 yrs later no one not involved shouldn't be given a hard time about it.

On a small scale, I agree 'Dixe' should be played and anyone with a problem can deal with it.
Posted by BigD Ag
Dallas
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:05 am to
Speaking of Morgan Freeman, didn't he host some homecoming recently in whatever city he is from in Miss? This school STILL - as of 5 or so years ago - had a separate homecoming for whites and blacks. Miss is still a bit different -- that documentary was interesting as well.

I actually enjoyed the documentary and did not consider it a hit piece at all. He seems to really love Miss and Ole Miss. I thought there were some negative stories and they were countered by a lot of positive ones. And showed how much Ole Miss has grown -- for example the SBP.

Either that or... since Wright Thompson went to Mizzou, maybe Mizzou wanted a recruit currently committed to Ole Miss?
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 8:07 am
Posted by MaroonNation
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:05 am to
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I thought it was strange how he left out the footage of Ole Miss fans, alums, students yelling at the 2-3 KKK members, telling them to lea


Can someone produce a link to this footage. I have heard several times from OM people that this happened and people videoed it on their phones but I have yet to see it and can't find it on YouTube
Posted by Run DMC
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:07 am to
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Legend13


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Member since November 2011


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Now GTFO NEWB



You have been a member for a whopping 12 months. SHUT THE frick UP. People get tired of hearing this shite. Grow up and quit acting like a whiny little bitch. Thanks
Posted by RebelExpress38
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:08 am to
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DCRebel



I don't have a problem with how they presented 1962, even though he really didn't add any new insights. I dont think anyone is upset about that. I just think it was strange that he talked about himself the whole time and left out a bunch of huge details in the more recent stuff.

Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:12 am to
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Speaking of Morgan Freeman, didn't he host some homecoming recently in whatever city he is from in Miss? This school STILL - as of 5 or so years ago - had a separate homecoming for whites and blacks. Miss is still a bit different -- that documentary was interesting as well.

This isn't just with MS. It's separated b/c the majority whites usually choose to have their own private homecoming, prom, etc. at the country club or Lion's Den and the blacks typically just got to the school sponsored ones which are open to all.
Posted by MaroonNation
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:13 am to
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Speaking of Morgan Freeman, didn't he host some homecoming recently in whatever city he is from in Miss? This school STILL - as of 5 or so years ago - had a separate homecoming for whites and blacks. Miss is still a bit different -- that documentary was interesting as well.


Most of Texas behaves the same way towards Mexicans. A former girlfriend of mines sister married a Mexican when the lived in Dallas. They were shunned the same way interracial couples in most of the South are.
Posted by BigD Ag
Dallas
Member since Dec 2011
1635 posts
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:17 am to
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Most of Texas behaves the same way towards Mexicans. A former girlfriend of mines sister married a Mexican when the lived in Dallas. They were shunned the same way interracial couples in most of the South are.


How is this even comparable? This was a homecoming - pretty sure my entire school went to homecoming, regardless of race. Not remotely true.
Posted by MaroonNation
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:19 am to
They moved to MS where they were much better treated. He was a doctor but people in TX evidently see all Mexicans the same. The way it compares is that TX is no paradise of racial harmony.


ETA. And see above explanation for why Freeman offered to pay for prom. Most schools in MS when I was a senior didn't have school sponsored proms for various reasons. The parents would sponsor them instead. Most groups of families will never agree on any one thing. So we generally had two separate proms.
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 8:23 am
Posted by DBo25
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:22 am to
I agree, What's the point in hating someone because of thier race? Like they can help it.

Also I think with each new generation we keep getting further away from the civil rights era and race becomes less and less of a big deal. In my experience they have those idiots that most likely got thier hate from thier parents whose parents also passed it down to them. However, I have friends of all races and we all get along great.

They can't change what happend 50 years ago, but we all can see how far we have come and how much further we still have to go until race is no longer any type of issue.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:26 am to
I graduated Ole Miss in May 2011 after 5.5 years there and there is a ton of racism there.

However, that is not unique to Ole Miss. It is all over the South.

Its hilarious when people say they want to keep the confederate flag and Colonel Reb because they aren't signs of racism (which I agree with) then they turn around and use the word "n*****" in conversations with their friends.

I can't wait to watch this, as I have met James a few times for my History Dissertation on Integration of Black Veterans into Mississippi Schools and Workforce.
Posted by MaroonNation
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:27 am to
Actually in MS the biggest and loudest people who keep it going are elected officials who are black. Bennie Thompson who is the Representative for a vast majority of the delta and Kenneth Stokes who is a slum lord who also happens to be on the city council in Jackson are the two biggest race baiters in the state
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:28 am to
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The director controls the direction of the film. Northerner promoting controversy.



Do you honestly believe that the director was deliberately "promoting controversy" because that just sounds ridiculous.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:30 am to
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I just think it was strange that he talked about himself the whole time and left out a bunch of huge details in the more recent stuff.


It definitely was self aggrandizing. A lot of "I" and "me" and so on. I guess they wanted to sortof show how one person can approach the situation? I dunno.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:30 am to
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Actually in MS the biggest and loudest people who keep it going are elected officials who are black. Bennie Thompson who is the Representative for a vast majority of the delta and Kenneth Stokes who is a slum lord who also happens to be on the city council in Jackson are the two biggest race baiters in the state


I agree with this as well.

If people would quit bringing it up, it would go away faster. If that makes sense...

Black people need to let it go, this generation of white people didn't segregate or enslave them. White people need to stop perpetuating myths of racism by using the N word and by going along with black stereotypes. (I will also add that all stereotypes start from somewhere rooted in truth)

Posted by aggiegirl2005
Member since Nov 2010
290 posts
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:31 am to
Agreed. The problem is segregation (whether natural or forced). The most racist person I've ever met in my life was from Mississippi. He was taught terrible things about blacks from his parents but was NEVER around black people. Met him when he went to trade school with my ex in Texas. Once he, ya know, MET some black classmates, they got along great. His mind was changed. It wasn't just having people of other races in his class; it was being assigned as partners on class work, having to talk to people, and the friendships that blossomed from that. That and he wasn't surrounded by social pressure NOT to be friends with people of other races.

That's not going to happen with everyone - but I wouldn't say this guy is particularly open-minded and even he changed. Cool thing to see actually.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:32 am to
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Actually in MS the biggest and loudest people who keep it going are elected officials who are black. Bennie Thompson who is the Representative for a vast majority of the delta and Kenneth Stokes who is a slum lord who also happens to be on the city council in Jackson are the two biggest race baiters in the state



They are hacks. They only give a shite about themselves.

It sucks that the people who vote for them either can't see that or don't give a frick but whatever. Politicians ruin everything.
Posted by DCRebel
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Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:32 am to
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However, that is not unique to Ole Miss. It is all over the world.



FIFY

Humanity is just kinda shitty sometimes.
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