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re: Georgia is paying Jim Chaney $850,000?
Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:17 am to fibonaccisquared
Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:17 am to fibonaccisquared
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Were you born yesterday? Is this your first season following college football? "Official requests to contact" typically don't happen before "non-official contact" has occurred.
To believe this, you would have to actually be naive enough to believe that Enos wouldn't have mentioned the non-compete himself.
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:19 am to fibonaccisquared
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Let's put this in terms that might seem more realistic for you.
At your cashier job at Walmart, you get paid 5.50/hour. You work with a bunch of 3 toothed hicks and are moderately successful turning your store into the "nicest Walmart" in a 50 mile radius. You have a lot of fans at the store.
In the months leading up to Black Friday, you get an unofficial offer to work for Target and they'll pay you 8.50/hour with better benefits, you'll have better staff to work with, and the customers don't smell like rotting garbage. In talking it over with friends, they also seem to think that taking the job with Target would get you the necessary experience you might need to one day take over managing a store yourself!
Which one do you take? 850k vs 550k even after taxes (if you had a shitty accountant) is still ~$150k take home differential. That's a lot of quan to pass up to stay in Fayettenam.
Trying to have an actual disccusion and you want to troll. You have no knowledge how the actually contact happened. You just assume Enos was ready to jump ship. You have no actual facts but w/e.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 12:22 am
Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:20 am to TheCheshireHog
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He also finished near the bottom of the ACC this past year after Pitt had been near the top the year before under Chryst.
I will disagree with you on principal here. They lost a 1700 yard rusher from the previous season and had effing Nate Peterman at QB. They may not have lit up the scoreboard, but I'd say he did a yeoman's job getting more out of less.
I wouldn't say the hire is "meh", just not a "wow". I am curious to see how he does, but do hope that Kirby puts a short leash on the hire. Richt's loyalty made it easy to let bad coordinators stick around too long (Willie Martinez most notably). There were certainly guys out there that might have had more "flair", but I'll take a veteran OC to try and anchor that side of the ball while Kirby gets his bearings as a HC. If he doesn't pan out, you got Pittman out of it, which is not a complete loss.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:21 am to TheCheshireHog
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To believe this, you would have to actually be naive enough to believe that Enos wouldn't have mentioned the non-compete himself.
He wouldn't be the first person to not fully understand the terms of his non-compete.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:24 am to rockiee
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Trying to have an actual disccusion and you want to troll.
In a thread that was clearly a troll, you're upset because it was turned back around on your peeps?
Legitimately, take the trolling comments out of it, do you keep your job at 550k or do you bounce to a school that routinely recruits top 10 classes, has an arguably easier path to the SEC championship, and will most assuredly pay you more?
I'm not even arguing for whether UGA is better than Arkansas as a school or football program, simply as a career move, wouldn't you say that those would be more appealing?
Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:28 am to fibonaccisquared
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Legitimately, take the trolling comments out of it, do you keep your job at 550k or do you bounce to a school that routinely recruits top 10 classes, has an arguably easier path to the SEC championship, and will most assuredly pay you more?
I'm not even arguing for whether UGA is better than Arkansas as a school or football program, simply as a career move, wouldn't you say that those would be more appealing?
Sure if everything is exactly the same but for the money. That isn't the case. You act like every coach has accepted an increase in pay for the same exact title as a cord. It isn't as if changing jobs doesn't have negatives compared to staying in your current job. If Enos wants to be a head coach next year it really doesn't matter where he is as an OC. He got a lot of positive cred for what he did to the Arkansas offense this year and if he keeps it up he will probably be a head coach again somewhere soon.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 12:30 am
Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:34 am to rockiee
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Sure if everything is exactly the same but for the money. That isn't the case. You act like every coach has accepted an increase in pay for the same exact title as a cord. If Enos wants to be a head coach next year it really doesn't matter where he is as an OC. He got a lot of positive cred for what he did to the Arkansas offense this year and if he keeps it up he will probably be a head coach again somewhere soon.
It's very rare for someone to pass up a more than 50% increase in pay. I would say that he would have had his work cut out for him if he had been able to come to UGA, as the offense was a disaster this year, starting with a freshman QB next season, limited WR talent and a mostly new coaching staff, would definitely have been the red flags when making the decision, but outside of the Auburn DC job, can you think of many other times people have turned down a 50% pay bump at the coordinator level?
Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:44 am to fibonaccisquared
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I would say that he would have had his work cut out for him if he had been able to come to UGA, as the offense was a disaster this year, starting with a freshman QB next season, limited WR talent and a mostly new coaching staff, would definitely have been the red flags when making the decision
You are sort of answering your own question. Kirby might turn out to be the next Saban but is still a new head coach which isn't the most exciting thing for all cords. My point was not that Enos would never be interested in taking a job with 50% more pay, my point was you made it for a fact that he had his bags packed, which none of us know. This discussion is pointless anyway because Enos is not going to another SEC team in the near future unless he gets a head coaching gig which wouldn't be for another few years anway.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:45 am to TheCheshireHog
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Were you born yesterday? Is this your first season following college football? "Official requests to contact" typically don't happen before "non-official contact" has occurred.
To believe this, you would have to actually be naive enough to believe that Enos wouldn't have mentioned the non-compete himself.
Who said he didn't mention it? I bet he did. I imagine it went Something along the lines of "I am very Interested, but I signed a stupid contract. Call me when my sentence of punishment is up."
Posted on 1/11/16 at 12:47 am to hawgfaninc
Chaney will have the best quarterback and running back he's ever had coupled with the best o line coach in the nation. If he can't get it done here, then I dont know if he ever will.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 12:48 am
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:10 am to td01241
When he has real weapons he does well. (Like at UT and like he will at UGA)
UT had one of their best offenses of all time under Chaney.
Too bad the defense couldn't stop anything.
UT had one of their best offenses of all time under Chaney.
Too bad the defense couldn't stop anything.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:13 am to UTodd98
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UT had one of their best offenses of all time under Chaney.
I can't imagine that's true considering your 2012 offense wasn't close to being tops in the SEC.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:22 am to UTodd98
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UT had one of their best offenses of all time under Chaney
How?
UT total offense:
2010: 68th
2011: 107th
2012: 35th
I understand that the defense may of hurt him but those averages are not great at all. That is about what he did at Arkansas as well.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 1:23 am
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:40 am to rockiee
Kirby Smart has exactly zero experiences coaching offense and calling or supervising the calling of offensive plays. Even Saban, who is a D guy has like two decades of games as HC being involved with the offense. Kirby wanted someone A) with lots of experience, B) with lots of SEC experience, and C) who has shown they can put it all together on their own if necessary. Chaney can put a serviceable offense together and let Kirby keep it close with D. It's certainly not sexy, but it gets Kirby through his first 2 year's without offensive embarrassments. It will be a slow start at UGA and it will likely get worse before things really start to click. I predict 8-4 for UGA despite an easy schedule.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:43 am to djsdawg
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Ut was 18th in 2012.
I see total offense as 35th in 2012. Where are you getting your info?
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:44 am to Blawdawg
Chaney will be asked to score 31-34 ppg average, run a balanced attack and not turn the ball over. If he can do that and Smart can do what he does on defense we will be just fine.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:49 am to rockiee
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Ut was 18th in 2012.
I see total offense as 35th in 2012. Where are you getting your info?
Cfbstats.com
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:49 am to djsdawg
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Cfbstats.com
Espn shows 35th
Posted on 1/11/16 at 1:58 am to bigdawg7780
If UGA averages 31-34 Chaney wins national awards. That would raise their offense from around 85 to about 35, and probably lead to an undefeated UGA team in the playoffs. I find that highly unlikely. UGA is already a top 10 D and I don't expect a great drop off or anything.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:22 am to rockiee
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Cfbstats.com
Espn shows 35th
Click on yards per game.
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