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re: Georgia fans - what is your opinion of HC Smart so far?
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:36 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:36 pm to djsdawg
I'm not sure what 2001 has to do with 2016. Our qb situation should be better than the last two years. In fact, our entire offense should be better IMO. I expected our defense to take a step back, but we may take several steps back unless something changes.
Saying we would have two lost games with Lambert is speculation, because we don't know how much he's improved. But I've seen enough to know that we've used some lousy schemes on both sides so far.
Saying we would have two lost games with Lambert is speculation, because we don't know how much he's improved. But I've seen enough to know that we've used some lousy schemes on both sides so far.
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Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:42 pm to wdhalgren
It should be easy to see what 2001 has to do with 2016. In case you forgot, 2001 is the other year a 1st year UGA coach decided to start a freshmen over an experienced 5th year SR.
Our 2015 schedule was extremely easy, so pointing to ten last year isn't saying much of anything. Saying we would have lost both UNC and Mizzou with Lambert is based upon how limited he is throwing the ball. It took a gun slinger mentality from Eason to win both of those games.
Our 2015 schedule was extremely easy, so pointing to ten last year isn't saying much of anything. Saying we would have lost both UNC and Mizzou with Lambert is based upon how limited he is throwing the ball. It took a gun slinger mentality from Eason to win both of those games.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:51 pm to wdhalgren
quote:Not really though.
Saying we would have two lost games with Lambert is speculation,
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:55 pm to djsdawg
I assume Richt started Greene because he was the better qb, which is what I assume Kirby is doing. Which means that Eason is better than a more experienced Lambert, which means that our qb situation is better than 2015, and most likely better than an inexperienced, weak-armed Hutson Mason was in 2014. So there's no excuse for this offense to not be improved.
I've seen lots of false excuses from Georgia fans, made in advance to excuse Kirby for failing. Richt left us depleted, false. Our schedule's a lot tougher, false. Our quarterback play will suffer because we're using a freshman, false (unless we're starting the wrong qb). Our RBs are worse, our OL is worse, we have no pass rushers, false, false, false.
This sort of rationalization is a defense mechanism by people hoping we didn't make a mistake in firing a coach who averaged 10 games a year over a 15 year period. I'm not aware of many programs that have ever done that. Maybe it was the right move, but I'm not just going to assume that until I see some actual evidence. So far, like I said, I haven't been impressed with the change.
I've seen lots of false excuses from Georgia fans, made in advance to excuse Kirby for failing. Richt left us depleted, false. Our schedule's a lot tougher, false. Our quarterback play will suffer because we're using a freshman, false (unless we're starting the wrong qb). Our RBs are worse, our OL is worse, we have no pass rushers, false, false, false.
This sort of rationalization is a defense mechanism by people hoping we didn't make a mistake in firing a coach who averaged 10 games a year over a 15 year period. I'm not aware of many programs that have ever done that. Maybe it was the right move, but I'm not just going to assume that until I see some actual evidence. So far, like I said, I haven't been impressed with the change.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:55 pm to SumterCoDawg
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Not really though.
Then you don't know the meaning of that word.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:00 pm to wdhalgren
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Our quarterback play will suffer because we're using a freshman, false
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our OL is worse, we have no pass rushers, false, false, false
These are true, at least so far.
UGA may have made a mistake. Time will tell. What you're doing is the opposite of people who think Kirby can do no wrong. You're looking for reasons that he is.
In regard to last year's team, they were a lot closer to winning 6 than winning 11. They were extremely fortunate to win 10.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:02 pm to crispyUGA
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You have to look a lot deeper than just overall recruiting rankings. Take the 2013 class for example; It's a big reason why we are struggling for depth right now. Out of 30+ players, 12 have transferred or were kicked off the team, 2 were medically DQ'd, another 5 have already left or graduated. 1 was drafted, 6 are current starters or have started games before, and another 5 are buried on the depth chart. That is an abysmal recruiting class. Looked great when it started out but you have to make sure they are guys who can contribute on some level. The failure of that is having a big impact on our current season.
Very well said, sir...
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:04 pm to wdhalgren
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our OL is worse...false
Please, sir, explain to me the philosophy behind Richt's Oline recruiting and how it is impacting our Oline now.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:07 pm to Crowknowsbest
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What you're doing is the opposite of people who think Kirby can do no wrong. You're looking for reasons that he is.
Not really. I'm a Georgia fan and I hope Smart turns out great. But the people insisting that he's an upgrade are making up reasons to justify that feeling. He's completely unproven and I haven't seen the greatness yet. I'm willing to give him time to prove his mettle, but I'm not going to lie and say he's done a good job by winning three close games against teams with less (or much less) talent.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:08 pm to wdhalgren
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So there's no excuse for this offense to not be improved. Richt left us depleted, false.
With the better QB, we still lost 4 games in 2001. Partially because he was a frosh, which limits a pro style offense. I guess this is a point you are going to ignore to the grave though.
The O is already is improved despite Richt leaving us without ONE quality kicker, without ONE quality OT, without ONE quality big WR on the roster, and forcing us to start a freshmen at QB. As for the D, Richt left us without experience in the front 7 and a lack of talent in the secondary. Those are all real limitations, but I guess you will also choose to ignore them.
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Our schedule's a lot tougher, false.
Why can't you admit our schedule was very easy in 2015? It might have been the easiest schedule we have had in 25+ years. We already have 2 better wins in 2016 than we had in 2015.
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This sort of rationalization is a defense mechanism by people hoping we didn't make a mistake in firing a coach who averaged 10 games a year over a 15 year period.
UGA has been an average 9-4 program for quite some time. Quit trying to mislead everyone by bringing up how great UGA was from 2002-2005.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:13 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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Richt's Oline recruiting and how it is impacting our Oline now
This OL should be better than last years, and probably better than most OL's Richt ever had. I didn't like Richt's OL recruiting, thought it was one of his biggest failures. But what Smart/Chaney are working with is better than most he had. When you include the RB and TE depth, this offense should be performing better than it is IMO.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:13 pm to djsdawg
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Richt Lost 4+ Regular season games in 2001, 2006, 2009, 2010, and 2013
This. Also known as 40% of seasons since our last SEC championship. Or slightly better than a coin flip. If you expand that to 3+ regular season games, it's 80% since 2005. There is/was a marked difference between the first five years of Richt and the remaining 10 (note: end of 2006 was when Bobo officially took over playcalling duties... I don't wanna be that guy but #blamebobo
) I'm not saying that Richt would have lost one of the opening 3 games but the idea that he definitely wouldn't have either is just silly.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:15 pm to djsdawg
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UGA has been an average 9-4 program for quite some time. Quit trying to mislead everyone by bringing up how great UGA was from 2002-2005.
Averaged 10 wins per year for the last 5 seasons, and the entire 15 years. Quit trying to mislead everyone into thinking UGA was going down the tubes under Mark Richt.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:16 pm to wdhalgren
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This OL should be better than last years, and probably better than most OL's Richt ever had.
Why? We lost two starters and didn't exactly replace them with 5*s.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:16 pm to wdhalgren
quote:I know we've had some bad OLs throughout the years but this just isn't true.
nd probably better than most OL's Richt ever had.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:17 pm to wdhalgren
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This OL should be better than last years, and probably better than most OL's Richt ever had. I didn't like Richt's OL recruiting, thought it was one of his biggest failures. But what Smart/Chaney are working with is better than most he had. When you include the RB and TE depth, this offense should be performing better than it is IMO.
Should be, but Richt didnt leave that kind of quality around. Its so bad, we are starting Rhode Island's OT at LT, a DT at OG, and an OG at RT. Think about that, and place the blame where it lies, which is on the previous staff.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:18 pm to wdhalgren
quote:So where were we going under Richt? We may not have been going down the tubes but we damn sure weren't going to top with him either.
Quit trying to mislead everyone into thinking UGA was going down the tubes under Mark Richt.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:20 pm to wdhalgren
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Averaged 10 wins per year for the last 5 seasons, and the entire 15 years. Quit trying to mislead everyone into thinking UGA was going down the tubes under Mark Richt.
That included zero wins over ranked teams in 2011, skipping Tuscaloosa in 2012 regular season (which played a big role in us winning the east), skipping Baton Rouge in 2014, and zero wins over ranked teams in 2015.
Whats more telling is our rankings:
UGA failed to finish ranked in both polls 5 times in the past 10 years, 4 times in the past 7 years, and 2 times in the past 3 years. That might not be "down the tubes", but its as bad as we have been since the mid 90's.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:27 pm to wdhalgren
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Saying we would have two lost games with Lambert is speculation, because we don't know how much he's improved. But I've seen enough to know that we've used some lousy schemes on both sides so fa
UGA could have done better than the O.C. Smart hired.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 2:29 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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UGA could have done better than the O.C. Smart hired.
And much worse as proven by Richt's OC hire the year before.
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