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re: Georgia fans - what is your opinion of HC Smart so far?

Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Leon S Kennedy
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:51 am to
I'm happy with Coach Smart so far. The lack of pass rush and the weak offensive line is killing us, but I think that more to do with Richt's recruiting than coaching. Georgia should have been in a position to reload, but they are not. 10-2 would be a successful season for me as long as neither loss is to Tennessee or Georgia Tech.

Going forward I think we have future #1 draft pick at quarterback and with the way Kirby is recruiting I think UGA will be major contender for the playoffs by Eason junior season. At point I expect us to reload be in serious contention for a championship on regular basis.

Smart has already addresses Richt's biggest recruit weakness in not signing elite offensive tackles. Hard to believe, but this will be the first time that UGA has signed two 4-star or higher offensive tackles in one class that I can remember.
Posted by Fan of Football
Jeanerette
Member since Sep 2016
657 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:52 am to
It's the first time Georgia is learning the word "smart" so give them time to adapt.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:01 am to
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Do you think Richt would have the team better positioned for a shot at the division this year or at least have the fan base more confident?


I doubt we would be 3-0 with Richt.
Posted by TechDawgs
Dallas via Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
387 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:08 am to
Sure....Richt probably would have had a better shot at winning the division but we rode that Pony into the dirt. Richt is a good football coach and leader of young men....but it was time to move on.

My impressions of Smart so far:

1-He is not Mark Richt
2-Maybe he can win a big game
Posted by TechDawgs
Dallas via Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
387 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:13 am to
Aint cheatin....aint trying. Im just waiting 2 years from now when we see all these amazing "walk ons" at ole miss due to the loss of scholarships for paying players to attend their university. The feel good stories will over flow.

....and by walk ons I mean-They lost scholarships so will now pay walk ons full tuition and living expenses under the table. That darn NCAA...so inconvenient.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:15 am to
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2-Maybe he can win a big game


don't be that guy. Richt won plenty of big games.
Posted by TechDawgs
Dallas via Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
387 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:22 am to
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don't be that guy.

quote:

Richt is a good football coach and leader of young men....but it was time to move on.


Yeah he did win some big games...but no one outside of you and me will remember them.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:50 am to
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It's the first time Georgia is learning the word "smart" so give them time to adapt.


And again, we've got a school with dumpster fire-level academics attempting to troll...

What is it with you folks today?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:53 am to
that guy is an alter so best to just ignore him.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 12:06 pm to
I like the Kirby hire, a lot. The program had gone stale under Richt and had gone as far as he could take us. Smart brings passion, excitement, and a winning attitude.

When I look at the job that he did in recruiting, even when he was still coaching Bama to a NC, I'm really impressed. His passion on the sideline is something we haven't seen since the Dooley years.

We haven't looked that great on the field at times, but other times we've shown a lot of promise. I think he'll get us to where we need to be.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3030 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 12:08 pm to
So far not impressed, but it's early and maybe that will change as players adapt to the new culture and scheme. Nevertheless, the Nicholls State game was an embarrassment for the COACHES, not the team. They never adapted to a defense that was 100% focused on stopping the run. And if you want to develop a young quarterback, what better time to do it than by passing more against an overmatched opponent who's begging you to pass? Why haven't we thrown to the tight ends?

Defensively, we aren't going to succeed using the scheme that Alabama used in 2015. At least not until we recruit at their level. Right now, Georgia needs to do whatever it takes to generate some pressure on the quarterback, and that will be evident tomorrow. Our db's aren't bad (mostly), but they're not good enough to succeed if we continue to have minimal pass rush.

Some are saying Richt would have done worse than Smart has so far, but that's bull crap. This is the kind of roster that Richt used to average 10 wins a year. The way Georgia has played so far in 2016 we'll be lucky to go 8-4 unless things improve rapidly.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 12:35 pm
Posted by SECFan1995
Member since Sep 2015
7880 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 12:52 pm to
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This is the kind of roster that Richt used to average 10 wins a year. The way Georgia has played so far in 2016 we'll be lucky to go 8-4 unless things improve rapidly.


No it's not. The teams that have won 10 games under Richt have usually had an experienced QB that is really good or a case like 2014 that had two Heisman caliber running backs (seriously, if Gurley doesn't get suspended he runs away with the Heisman, same if Chubb started all season).

I'm not dogging Sony Michel here. He's a good RB but he's not a Heisman type to me.

He's never done well without an experienced QB that is good and it's revising history to say that he has, Lambert isn't the case of a good QB (he's below average at even being a game manager). He's usually won 6-8 regular season games with an average QB or a young and inexperienced one.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 12:55 pm to
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Some are saying Richt would have done worse than Smart has so far, but that's bull crap. This is the kind of roster that Richt used to average 10 wins a year. The way Georgia has played so far in 2016 we'll be lucky to go 8-4 unless things improve rapidly.


You must be a new Uga fan as in starting in 2014. Richt Lost 4+ Regular season games in 2001, 2006, 2009, 2010, and 2013.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3030 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:00 pm to
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No it's not. The teams that have won 10 games under Richt have usually had an experienced QB that is really good


Our qb situation should be at least as good as 2015, and probably 2014 since Mason was neither experienced or notably good. Lambert knows the offense better than last year (when he arrived in July), and if Eason is the starter then presumably Eason is better than Lambert, so qb play should be adequate to improved. If it's not improved, then they're starting the wrong guy. As for RB, if we can't generate offense with this group of RB's, it's gonna be tough from now on. The main thing holding our RB's back so far is coaches trying to run straight into a completely stacked defense, and even Toddy Gurley would have struggled with that.

quote:

He's never done well without an experienced QB that is good and it's revising history to say that he ha


Richt coached for 15 years, fifteen, and averaged right at 10 wins. And he did a lot of that with less OL talent than we have right now, and some horrible defensive coaching to boot.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3030 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:05 pm to
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You must be a new Uga fan


Graduated UGA 1980. I'm just not going to excuse substandard coaching for the sake of feel good groupthink. Our talent level right now is not the issue for some glaring problems in the first three games. Like I said, it may improve but overall so far the coaching is weak IMO. I hope to be pleasantly surprised tomorrow and over the next few weeks.
Posted by SECFan1995
Member since Sep 2015
7880 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:07 pm to
Is Brian Schottenheimer still at Georgia? I must've missed it if he was. And no, Lambert is not even good at managing games. If you start him, you're automatically kissing three games goodbye.

In fact, can you even read? I said that 2014 was an exception to the Mark Richt new QB rule in his history due to two Heisman caliber RBs.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:14 pm to
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Graduated UGA 1980. I'm just not going to excuse substandard coaching for the sake of feel good groupthink. Our talent level right now is not the issue for some glaring problems in the first three games. Like I said, it may improve but overall so far the coaching is weak IMO. I hope to be pleasantly surprised tomorrow and over the next few weeks.


Nothing "feel good" about what I said. It shouldn't take a group of others to inform you that richt with frosh qbs led to 8-4 in 2001, 9-4 in 2006, and 6-7 in 2010.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3030 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:15 pm to
Like I said, our RB's are not a problem and wouldn't be a problem for any team in college football, and our qb situation should be better than the last two seasons. As for Lambert, he would almost certainly be better than last season, because he's had more time to get comfortable in this offense. If Eason is better than that right now, then our qb situation should be improved. If our offense doesn't turn out significantly better than the last two years (despite having Todd Gurley for 5 1/2 games in 2014), it's a coaching problem IMO.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3030 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:17 pm to
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richt with frosh qbs


But we have a 5th year senior qb who Richt won 9 games and would have won 10 with last season. So we don't have to use the freshman unless he's better than that. Go ahead and start moving the bar for success lower if you like, but the Kirby's better than Richt talk has no evidence to back it up right now.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 1:18 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:27 pm to
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But we have a 5th year senior qb who Richt won 9 games and would have won 10 with last season. So we don't have to use the freshman unless he's better than that. Go ahead and start moving the bar for success lower if you like, but the Kirby's better than Richt talk has no evidence to back it up right now.


We had a 5th year SR QB in 2001 as well, but we went with the frosh anyways. It was the right move then and its the right move now, but with it comes certain offensive limitations.

Anyways, Lambert isn't good and we would have lost the UNC and Mizzou games with him in the game. No way he orchestrates 2 double digit hole comebacks, but Richt would have left him in because he knew the offense so well.

Again, the point is Richt didnt regularly win 10 games with a frosh QB. Never did it even once. On top of that, Maybe you need a refresher on the program Richt has had since 2006, 2008, or 2009. Its far from the 10 win juggernaut you think it was.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 1:29 pm
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