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re: fumbles on 4th down.

Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:18 am to
Posted by Guster
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
4441 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:18 am to
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When a snap is fumbled it's called a fumbled snap, no?


If it was snapped by the center to handoff to the QB.... Sure.

If it was snapped by the center to shotgun QB and over his head, then no.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30267 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:18 am to
This pisser is going round and round on another part of the play

ETA - but I appreciate you putting it in this thread too cause he's been bouncing back and forth between the 2 threads


I think he must be a lawyer...a really bad one too
This post was edited on 10/10/10 at 1:20 am
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:32 am to
quote:

The NCAA rulebook couldn't be more vague or contradictory.

Not for those who understand it

quote:

When a snap is fumbled it's called a fumbled snap, no?



There can be no "fumbled snap". The snap is a backward pass....if the QB doesn't acheive possession, it's a muffed backward pass. It remains a muffed backward pass until someone gains possession.
Posted by acambu2
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
49 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:33 am to
u can throw the ball off the ground backwards and that is a lateral dumass
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30267 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:34 am to
no....when the QB is under center, it can be fumbled since the center "possessed" the ball first when he tried to "hand off" the ball to the QB
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:38 am to
quote:

no....when the QB is under center, it can be fumbled since the center "possessed" the ball first when he tried to "hand off" the ball to the QB


You are wrong...you might not think you are; but that doesn't change the fact that you are. There can be no fumbled snap.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30267 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:40 am to
if you think that then you are as thick headed as that other dude

quote:

A fumble in American and Canadian football occurs when a player, who has possession and control of the ball loses it. By rule, it is any act other than passing, kicking or successful handing that results in loss of player possession.
Posted by Guster
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
4441 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:41 am to
Well that's good to know.
Posted by blueTunaTiger
Gulf of Mexico, USA
Member since Feb 2009
3696 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:42 am to
quote:

that results in loss of player possesion"


Hey Douche Bag, when did possession change during the play?

Thanks for playing again, and GTFO & STFU
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:48 am to
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if you think that then you are as thick headed as that other dude


No, unlike dumbfricks like you, I know the rule book.

Read 2-12-1c and 2-19-2d and 2-23-1

Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30267 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:52 am to
why don't you post it hear for everyone to read?

we've already had this discussion and all you did was make mocking comments....which you do in all threads

not interested in going round and round and round with another dumbass

ETA - so go frick yourself
This post was edited on 10/10/10 at 1:53 am
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:57 am to
quote:

why don't you post it hear for everyone to read?


They can look it up for themselves and maybe they'll learn something by the effort.
I give the proper application of the rule and ignorant dumbfrick fantards want to argue about it.....
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85790 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 2:03 am to
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arrakis


<-------Knows not to argue with arrakis on FB Rules



Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30267 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 2:04 am to
quote:

proper application of the rule


I think the word you were looking for is "interpretation"

and only that can be given by NCAA officials....we can only hope to understand what it is they mean....and in your case it's a stretch
This post was edited on 10/10/10 at 2:05 am
Posted by FightingTigers1
Member since Jan 2009
714 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 2:05 am to
How about you just face the facts about Urban as a coach. He is a below average SEC coach without Tebow. You can look at his time before he had Tebow to now. His little gimmick offense does not work against teams in the SEC without Tebow. Yall have way too much talent from recruiting every year to look this bad. Debose should be targeted more. Adazzio is the worst OC on the planet.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12191 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 2:08 am to
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Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 2:12 am to
quote:


I think the word you were looking for is "interpretation"

and only that can be given by NCAA officials....we can only hope to understand what it is they mean....and in your case it's a stretch


No, I have the correct word because the sections include the A.R. But, you wouldn't know that, would you? lol

In your case, which is quoting a Wiki entry, you're a certified dumbfrick.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
Member since Jan 2005
45567 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 2:13 am to
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How about you just face the facts about Urban as a coach. He is a below average SEC coach without Tebow.


Dude, he won the national title in 2006 with Tebow only playing a few snaps, not to mention how great he was at Utah with Alex Smith
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30267 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 2:13 am to
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/10/10 at 2:14 am to
arrakis you might have already said it in this thread but was the correct call made so the bitching can finally end?
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