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Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:33 am to Hog on the Hill
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A lateral that hits the ground is a fumble.
That's a big negative. It is NOT a fumble. It is a lateral pass. Sorry. And ESPN drew the line and it landed ON the line. So its a later, not a fumble nor a forward pass.
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:33 am to Guster
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:33 am to audodger
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Also the holder's knee was down when he tossed the ball slightly forward.
And?
If you are argue that the play should be dead because the holders knee is on the ground, then please explain why every FG attempt is not blown dead.
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:37 am to Guster
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Wasn't a fumble. NCAA rule book Look up the definitions of a Loose ball, fumble, backward pass, and a handoff and get back to me.
KA.....BOOM!!!!!
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:38 am to blueTunaTiger
he needs a link 
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:38 am to RummelTiger
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RummelTiger
I admire the work you do especially on crazy nights like tonight
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:39 am to joshnorris14
crybaby!!
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:39 am to blueTunaTiger
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Also the holder's knee was down when he tossed the ball slightly forward.
Its like trying to explain rules to my wife.
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:40 am to Guster
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Look up the definitions of a Loose ball, fumble, backward pass, and a handoff and get back to me.
Did it, you were wrong.
It's like guy has posted earlier:
The definition of a fumble "Is any act other than passing, kicking, or successful handing that results in loss of player possesion"
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:42 am to inelishaitrust
and you just proved yourself wrong
thanks for ending the thread!
thanks for ending the thread!
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:42 am to inelishaitrust
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The definition of a fumble "Is any act other than passing, kicking, or successful handing that results in loss of player possesion"
Good. So a fumble can't occur on a pass play.
So did you look up the difference between a pass and a handoff? Something to do with a throwing motion I presume.
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:44 am to Guster
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Good. So a fumble can't occur on a pass play.
Not true, but what does that have to do with the play?
Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:50 am to inelishaitrust
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Not true, but what does that have to do with the play?
Damn you are thick.
You just quoted that a fumble cannot occur during the act of passing. The toss over the head is considered a pass and get this: a backward pass even. So since we have established that the ball is not a fumble because it occurred in the act of passing and is not an incomplete because it was a backward pass, that leaves a "loose ball", which isn't subjected to the exceptions outlined in te OP
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Posted on 10/10/10 at 12:59 am to inelishaitrust
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:00 am to Guster
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that leaves a "loose ball", which isn't subjected to the exceptions outlined in te OP
If a center snaps the ball over the QB's head is that a loose ball or a fumble?
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:01 am to inelishaitrust
a loose ball
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:01 am to dkreller
Section 30 proves my point.
Posted on 10/10/10 at 1:02 am to inelishaitrust
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If a center snaps the ball over the QB's head is that a loose ball or a fumble?
That act defined as a backward pass in the rule book, which makes it a loose ball.
But you would know this if you read the definitions I suggested you look up.
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