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re: fumble or not?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:35 pm to PrivatePublic
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:35 pm to PrivatePublic
Fumble
quote:If this was so then it wouldn't have been considered a TB.
PrivatePublic
Nope, illegal forward pass
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:43 pm to DawgNation2012
Fumble without regard to where the ball is when it comes out.
Because of where the ball is when it starts to come out, or appears to come out, makes me question. If the ref was right there and called it a fumble, I would not have indisputable video evidence based on that GIF clip.
Because of where the ball is when it starts to come out, or appears to come out, makes me question. If the ref was right there and called it a fumble, I would not have indisputable video evidence based on that GIF clip.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:45 pm to DawgNation2012
100% fumble
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:47 pm to bamabenny
How is this still even going on? Having the tiny tip of your finger on the ball still doesn't matter, you have to have possession. Touching the ball with your fingertip isn't possession. He didn't possess the ball as it was crossing the line, it is undoubtedly a fumble and even the UT fans are saying so.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:49 pm to elposter
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It's not a fumble. Bad angle here, but the right side of the ball carrier's body had broken the plane of the sideline prior to losing control of the ball, meaning he was out of bounds and down before losing control.
What the frick did you just say?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:49 pm to WG_Dawg
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How is this still even going on? Having the tiny tip of your finger on the ball still doesn't matter, you have to have possession. Touching the ball with your fingertip isn't possession. He didn't possess the ball as it was crossing the line, it is undoubtedly a fumble and even the UT fans are saying so.
But based on the clip provided in the OP, I can't see when the player loses possession, so the call on the field, whatever it was, would stand.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:54 pm to elposter
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but the right side of the ball carrier's body had broken the plane of the sideline prior to losing control of the ball,
oh, my.
So if your body is out(not sure how that happens) but your feet are in, you are out?
It was a fumble, and it was correctly called.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:56 pm to KaiserSoze99
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can't see when the player loses possession,
Its the part where he loses it out of his grip, then it passes through the endzone. What do you need to see?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:57 pm to tigerfoot
It is a fumble. Helped Auburn in 2010 IB, but that ball went 30 yards
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:06 pm to tigerfoot
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Its the part where he loses it out of his grip, then it passes through the endzone. What do you need to see?
Look at this and tell me where the tip of the ball is when he loses his grip on the ball.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:06 pm to DawgNation2012
He fumbled a full yard before the goal line, simply touching the ball with your fingertip is not possession.
Anyone who thinks overwise has never watched a football game in their life.
Anyone who thinks overwise has never watched a football game in their life.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:07 pm to IAmReality
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He fumbled a full yard before the goal line, simply touching the ball with your fingertip is not possession.
So, you are saying that he lost possession when he let go with his right hand and extended the ball with his left? To you, that's a fumble?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:13 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Fumble without regard to where the ball is when it comes out.
Because of where the ball is when it starts to come out, or appears to come out, makes me question. If the ref was right there and called it a fumble, I would not have indisputable video evidence based on that GIF clip.
The ref called it a TD. Whether or not there was indisputable evidence to overturn that call of TD is the only real point of debate. Of course, I'm not even sure he's not out of bounds before the fumble/TD. The weird part of the call is that it doesn't get ruled a fumble but a touchback. A fumble out of bounds at the 2 yard line would've been better for us. It's an odd call based on an odd rule.
It's simply an academic exercise on moot point now.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:13 pm to KaiserSoze99
Lol @ fumbling a full yard before the goaline.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:15 pm to DawgNation2012
I don't think it is a fumble. At first glance, it looks OBVIOUSLY like a fumble, but some of that might be an illusion due to when he takes his right hand off the ball. It looks like he loses the ball at that point, but, when you look more closely, you can see the ball is still in his left hand. The big question is this...Does the ball come out of his left hand before or after it begins to cross the front of the white line? I don't know.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:16 pm to IAmReality
Still has possession and the ball crossed the plane. Touchdown.
ETA: Woops. Wrong GIF.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:18 pm to DawgNation2012
Vols really still do own UGA's head after all these years huh? They beat a 6 at most win UT team in OT with a FG and they're still jerking off.
ETA: looks like a fumble to me
ETA: looks like a fumble to me
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:20 pm to KaiserSoze99
When I first saw the replay I thought there was no doubt he fumbled prior to breaking the plane. Now I'm not so sure. If it has to be indisputable evidence they got it wrong IMO.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:30 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Look at this and tell me where the tip of the ball is when he loses his grip on the ball.
Good point, I wasn't looking at the left hand that closely. The fact that he flexes his wrist right at the goal line makes it look like he had just now realized he lost the ball. I stand almost corrected.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 3:34 pm to tigerfoot
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Good point, I wasn't looking at the left hand that closely. The fact that he flexes his wrist right at the goal line makes it look like he had just now realized he lost the ball.
That's exactly what I saw too.
Right here:
He loses it right after he flicks his hand, after the ball crossed the plane. Either way, if the ref called a TD, that should have stood. WTF??? Gonna have to start the R.D.C. (Red Dawg Conspiracy).
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