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re: Frick it I'm done. NIL, stupid new football rules, "respeck my decision"...it all sucks

Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:48 am to
Posted by AgentMuschamp
Member since Aug 2023
52 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:48 am to
Help me out, when was the last time OSU beat UGA in football? Certainly basketball though right?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32888 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 1:22 am to
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You just thought it was every year. There are multiple portal windows, so it’s every single open window that you have to do it. Pretty soon there won’t be portal windows and players will transfer freely I’m sure.


We have one of them at DB. Aggies might get him eventually.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4312 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:38 am to
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The majority of players are now mercenaries

LSU fans would rather have a five star player from Los Angeles who can barely spell his name and only cares about the NIL and the NFL than a three star player from Baton Rouge who wants to be an engineer if it means that difference in winning a championship.

You have mercenaries because you recruit mercenaries. You care more about winning than you do producing solid students and citizens. That's the real problem with college football.

I have said it before. You guys expect way too much out of a bunch of college kids playing football. Here's what you want:

1. People with NFL potential who can win and produce an elite level of football.

2. People who are legitimate college students who value education and the benefits of scholarship.

3. People so loyal that they put the interests of the university ahead of their own while the coaches who recruit them jump from job to job for another dollar and would replace them in heartbeat with a better player.

4. People so docile that they are fine with a scholarship and restrictions on their income while all of the coaches and administrators around them make millions off their efforts in a multibillion dollar industry.

5. People with solid character who will not embarrass the university.

You expect a bunch of Captain Americas on campus. And if you can't find 85 of them and have to give on something, it sure as shite isn't going to be on ability to win. It will be on academics, character, and all this loyalty you speak of
Posted by AulderMagee
Dallas
Member since Mar 2024
159 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:45 am to
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Instead of getting behind what saban was trying….had been saying..,for years


The only thing Saban has been saying for years is that only Alabama should be able to pay players and if anyone else tries the same then his buddies in the NCAA should go after them.

Then when he tried it with Tennessee, Tennessee kicked the NCAA in the teeth.

This is all Saban's fault, on so many fronts, for so many reasons.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32683 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:46 am to
I honestly don’t think I’ll even pay attention to this college football season. The school names on the uniforms mean nothing at this point. It’s boring.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14167 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:32 am to
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Frick it I'm done. NIL, stupid new football rules, "respect my decision"...it all sucks


You must have read Lane Kiffins comments yesterday on the ongoing chaos that is college football. For your viewing pleasure:

"It’s really a s---ty system,” Kiffin said, per Rebel Grove. “It is. Now, we’re going to utilize it, just like the players do. I’m not mad at the players. They utilize the system, and we’re going to utilize it and make the best roster that we can.”

“Here again, it’s a really stupid system,” Kiffin said. “Hey, it’s good for the players, maybe. It’s good for them financially, but I’m not really sure it’s good for them that they can leave anytime something goes wrong. They’re just going to run, no matter what. I think what you’re going to see — I said this when they first started this — is people that, ‘I’m going to go somewhere, get their money and having never played a down as a transfer and I’m going to back in right after spring ball and go somewhere else and get their money.’”

“You’ve created a system where you can just go get money basically at the end of every semester,” Kiffin said, according to Rebel Grove, “switching spots as many times as you want. … That’s not good.”


LINK
Posted by BamaStepL
Ttown
Member since Feb 2011
2334 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:34 am to
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I have said it before. You guys expect way too much out of a bunch of college kids playing football. Here's what you want:


If the end of Southern slavery had the internet.. lmao

I know that this is not what your post is about but in every one of the complaints in this thread I just imagined it said in a big ol blustery deep southern accent.. this thread is hilarious.

Why does it suck that a player can do what every last American does on a daily basis.. the best for themselves. The travesty. The system will adjust. Times change always. I find it funny that people pine about the good ol days in in the good ol days people complained about the status quo and pined about the good ol days lol
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 5:38 am
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
471 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:13 am to
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This is what happens when rich old fat boomers try to control everything and end up killing the golden goose. They refused to give an inch and when the power shifted, the players took a mile. Can't blame the players, blame the old farts that ran it into the ground by refusing to be reasonable.


Nah, the old boomers kept the game we all loved the way it should be as long as they could until the dam burst in the court case. This was inevitable once pay for play happened.

Now college football needs to go full blown nfl with a college twist. The game we knew is dead.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
14167 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:28 am to
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Now college football needs to go full blown nfl with a college twist. The game we knew is dead.


That's insulting to the NFL. Their free agents have to sign contracts and perform for the money. No one knows what this mess is to even define it.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15973 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:28 am to
Ok bye
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1767 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:11 am to
Fans and coaches thought the way things were would go on forever but it was always … ALWAYS … a house of cards that was going to collapse once it seriously got into the courts. It is what it is and once everyone accepts that the old system is never coming back, things will settle down and there can be some serious efforts to come to an understanding that’s fair for everyone.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7077 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:40 am to
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It never should have gotten to this point. The NCAA and the conferences should have come up with a CBA to compensate the players. They deserved compensation but this is a complete shite show.

A player can transfer at any time without having to sit, and it is a travesty to watch. The majority of players are now mercenaries, with many incoming recruits requiring money just to visit a school. Never mind recruiting your existing team every year as well.


It can't be sustainable, can it? Early on its exciting to have some super star come to your corporate event or hawk your muffle shop in Tuscaloosa but how much bang for your buck are those footing the bill getting? The one sure thing that I think is coming is a severe degradation in coaching talent. HCs are making serious bank considering their alternative career paths...but after 7-8 years most would be hard pressed to do it for the money much longer....opening the door to a bunch of folks who have no business leading a program. You can bet that some coaches are getting pressured into allowing the donors more than simple access...some of those egotistical pricks are going to demand gameday decision making input. Given the ego of a HC that dog ain't gonna hunt. Its a shite show for certain. I think 10 years as a HC will be a looooooooonnnnnng career in another 5 years without some major changes.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55643 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:44 am to
you can't get attached to your high 4*/5* freshman who don't play much, but make a couple big plays in their first season or two. sucks
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10989 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:49 am to
College football is a whole new thing. Not for the better. And there is no going back. The SCOTUS ruled on it.

Like with a lot of things, people talked about the slippery slope before all this and were shouted down and told they were just being ridiculous. Oh well, enjoy.
Posted by CamNewtonsDress
Member since Mar 2024
411 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:52 am to
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Like with a lot of things, people talked about the slippery slope before all this and were shouted down and told they were just being ridiculous. Oh well, enjoy.


Maybe if they had spent their time and energy trying to find aiddle ground instead of fighting the inevitable things wouldn't be this way.

Instead, they fought tooth and nail and drug it out as long as they could and now this is the result of that strategy.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10989 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:03 am to
Really, it probably was inevitable, unavoidable, no matter what had been done.
The real problem right now really isn’t even player compensation, it’s college free agency. While there is nothing that can be done on compensation, the NCAA or conferences can stop the free agency. They can put rules in place for that.
Posted by CamNewtonsDress
Member since Mar 2024
411 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:15 am to
I'm not so sure about that. They'll probably lose that lawsuit as well.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14167 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:19 am to
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It never should have gotten to this point. The NCAA and the conferences should have come up with a CBA to compensate the players. They deserved compensation but this is a complete shite show.

A player can transfer at any time without having to sit, and it is a travesty to watch. The majority of players are now mercenaries, with many incoming recruits requiring money just to visit a school. Never mind recruiting your existing team every year as well.


It can't be sustainable, can it?



No, it can't and it won't. There is not a team in college football that knows their team next season until the middle of May. That's when 30 more days in the spring Portal Potty officially closes and head coaches can assess the damage. Insiders are predicting huge numbers of big names that rival anything we've seen in the short 3 years of NIL. No one is going unscathed through this period and most teams already have a long list of guys they feel are candidates for leaving and other guys from other teams who aren't even in the Portal yet. These head coaches have to be puckered up like green persimmons.

Anyone, after the latest spring transfers, still thinking this is good for the game is basically intellectually nonexistent to start with.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4312 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:39 am to
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Anyone, after the latest spring transfers, still thinking this is good for the game is basically intellectually nonexistent to start with.

It’s good for the players, which is the point. Your money is coming in either way. The fans won’t be able to stay away even if they long for the good ole days. And younger fans who grew up with social media influencers will be more understanding of it.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14167 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:46 am to
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It’s good for the players, which is the point. Your money is coming in either way. The fans won’t be able to stay away even if they long for the good ole days. And younger fans who grew up with social media influencers will be more understanding of it.


Being understanding won't have anything to do with it. NIL isn't stumbling anyone of any generation. We get that part. There is zero commitment on the other end of the bargain. That is unsustainable.
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