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re: Freeze Speaks to USA Today

Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:46 am to
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:46 am to
Wtf does "y u no christianity baw?" and "no flying spaghetti monster for me baw" have to do with SEC sports?



Time to close this topic up.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:49 am to
I agree with closing the topic.

But first, here is a list of the different versions of the Bible spanning the last few centuries.

"American Standard Version

American King James Version

Amplified Bible

An American Translation

ArtScrollTanakh (Old Testament)

An American Translation

The Beloved and I: New Jubilees Version of the Sacred Scriptures in Verse

Berkeley Version

Bible in English

The Bible in Living English

Bishops' Bible

Catholic Public Domain Version

Children's King James Version

Christian Community Bible, English version

Clear Word Bible

Common English Bible

Complete Jewish Bible

Contemporary English Version

Concordant Literal Version

Coverdale Bible

Dabhar Translation

Darby Bible

Divine Name King James Bible

Douay–Rheims Bible

Douay-Rheims Bible (Challoner Revision)

EasyEnglish Bible

Easy-to-Read Version

Emphasized Bible

English Jubilee 2000 Bible

English Standard Version

Ferrar Fenton Bible

Geneva Bible

God's Word

Good News Bible

Great Bible

HalleluYah Scriptures

Hebraic Roots Version

Holman Christian Standard Bible

The Inclusive Bible

International Standard Version

Jerusalem Bible

Jewish Publication Society of America VersionTanakh (Old Testament)

Judaica PressTanakh (Old Testament).

Julia E. Smith Parker Translation

King James 2000 Version

King James Easy Reading Version

King James Version

King James II Version

Knox's Translation of the Vulgate

Lamsa Bible

A Literal Translation of the Bible

Leeser Bible, Tanakh (Old Testament)

The Living Bible

The Living Torah andThe Living Nach. Tanakh (Old Testament)

Matthew's Bible

The Message

Modern King James Version

Modern Language Bible

Moffatt, New Translation

Murdock Translation of the Western Peshitto

Names of God Bible

New American Bible

New American Standard Bible

New Century Version

New English Bible

New English Translation(NET Bible)

New International Reader's Version

New International Version Inclusive Language Edition

New International Version

New Jerusalem Bible

New Jewish Publication Society of America Version. Tanakh (Old Testament)

New King James Version

New Life Version

New Living Translation

New Revised Standard Version

New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures

The Orthodox Study Bible

Quaker Bible

Recovery Version of the Bible

Revised Version

Revised Standard Version

Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

Revised English Bible

The Scriptures

Simplified English Bible

The Beloved and I

The Story Bible

Taverner's Bible

Thomson's Translation

Today's New International Version

Third Millennium Bible

Tyndale Bible

Updated King James Version

A Voice In The Wilderness Holy Scriptures

Webster's Revision

Westminster Bible

The Work of God's Children Illustrated Bible

World English Bible

Wycliffe's Bible (1380)

Wycliffe's Bible (1388)

Young's Literal Translation

The Orthodox Jewish Bible

Tree of Life Bible

Messianic Aleph Tav Scriptures

New Messianic Version"

Hasn't been edited my arse.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:50 am to
quote:

"y u no christianity baw?"


English, please?
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18049 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:55 am to
The Hebrew translates more to:

"And if men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart"

The medical definition for misscarriage is the expulsion of a fetus from the womb before it is able to survive independently, especially spontaneously or as the result of accident, or to "give birth prematurely"

The translation is fine.

You are reaching here.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 9:56 am
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

The translation is fine.

You are reaching here.


He's also using different translations or versions to illustrate "editing".

But we are WAY off topic. RE: Freeze's statement to USA Today, what else would people expect him to say?

Although,

"Sorry for all the pain I've caused my family and The University and the fans" would have been a good start...

Not "I'm going to Memphis to visit friends".
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:03 am to
There is a significant difference in editing the source texts and in translations of the source text. No doubt the theology of the translators can affect the tone or shading of the text in translation, but also there is constant advancement in the translators' understanding of the nuances of language, including the language of the source texts. Also consider that language changes over time and words change their meaning. "Kill" in Elizabethan times has a slightly different meaning that it has today. Thus modern translations will use the word "murder" In the translation of the Ten Commandments rather than "kill" in the King James translation. The word hasn't been changed in the source text, but it is translated differently today than more than 400 years ago because of changes in modern English usage.

As to the differences in translation of Exodus 21:22, the KJV says "so her fruit depart from her." The ESV says "so that her child come out." And the NBS (French) says "que son enfant sort." The obvious point is a premature birth or miscarriage, which in ancient times would have been virtually the same. Premature birth would have almost always resulted in death of the infant. If not, they probably would not have regarded it as a premature birth. Your attempt to prove a point about editing is a failure.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 10:04 am
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:51 am to
religion is a political system just like government is a political system.

Even though there is no God, Hugh Freeze will be better in life for speaking to his Pastor because the political part of religion is powerful, even if the God part of religion is non existent.

There are millions of people whose life is better off because they choose to be in the political system of a religion.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:05 am to
quote:

“God is good, even in difficult times,’’ Freeze told USA TODAY Sports. “Wonderful wife and family, and that’s my priority.’’


Jesus Christ, shut the frick up with "God" you pious holier-than-thou piece of shite. You're not fooling anyone.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17737 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Even though there is no God


source?
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3478 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:13 am to
Deleted. Was mocking God.

(just to be on the safe side.)
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:14 am to
quote:

There are millions of people whose life is better off because they choose to be in the political system of a religion.


I agree with this. Religion is only a real issue to us non religious when someone is trying to force their religion on others. Things like putting up a statue of the Ten Commandments at a government building, trying to get prayer in public schools, refusing to serve the LGBT community, trying to get creationism taught in schools, preachers talking politics from the pulpit (yet the church is tax exempt), etc... If you want to have these personal beliefs, go right ahead. Just don't expect or demand everyone else to believe it too.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:20 am to
quote:

But we are WAY off topic. RE: Freeze's statement to USA Today, what else would people expect him to say?

Although,

"Sorry for all the pain I've caused my family and The University and the fans" would have been a good start...

Not "I'm going to Memphis to visit friends".



I would expect him to have at least some sort of shame rather than just "going through difficult times". Going through difficult times is when you lose your mother to cancer through no fault of anyone. Going through difficult times is when you're laid off from the sawmill.

Cheating on your wife 5+ times and losing your job of being the highest paid employee in the state isn't going through difficult times for you. You fricked up hardcore, and you should issue full fledged apology to everyone you affected, first your wife and kids, and then the community that you fricked with.

But instead he's still that pious piece of shite that has been exposed for the man he actually is and left our university at a new low. Stop using God as a crutch, and face the fricking music that you fricked up.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:21 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Are you even a little bit upset that he didn't/hasn't apologized to you yet?



Yeah. This wasn't an apology whatsoever to either his family or his community. Just "difficult times" if that means anything. Difficult times don't imply a self inflicted wound, just something bad has happened.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:32 am to
quote:

source?


You realize you can say the same about Bigfoot, The Lock Ness monster, ghosts, etc. No one can prove that anything doesn't exist because it might somewhere in the universe or in some other universe. Just like you can't prove that I'm not god if I say I am because to anything you say to dispute my claim to be god, I can always say "but what if".
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17737 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:34 am to
quote:

You realize you can say the same about Bigfoot, The Lock Ness monster, ghosts, etc. No one can prove that anything doesn't exist because it might somewhere in the universe or in some other universe. Just like you can't prove that I'm not god if I say I am because to anything you say to dispute my claim to be god, I can always say "but what if".


He made the definitive statement, not me
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Yeah. This wasn't an apology whatsoever to either his family or his community. Just "difficult times" if that means anything. Difficult times don't imply a self inflicted wound, just something bad has happened.


What he NEEDS to do is get out of Oxford with his family. Like move. Completely away. At least for a while, anyways. No phone, no tv, no anything. Just go. And make an attempt at putting his family back together. Then worry about everything else. Because in the scheme of things, that's what matters most.

Quite frankly, people don't want to hear that he's depending on God. He's been depending on God for his entire career. But he hasn't. He's just been telling us he has. This time, don't tell people, just do it. Humbly. Without making a deal of it. You've lost your platform for a VERY long time, if not forever. Don't try to get back up on it.
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3197 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:43 am to
quote:

What he NEEDS to do is get out of Oxford.


I mean, I'm sure that is the next logical step. He is no longer employed by the university and will never be again, so what other reason does he have to live in such a place? "I've got lots of down time and lots of money, let's live in Mississippi!" said no one ever.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 2:26 pm to
"God is good" is a definitive statement that has no sauce, so there are no need me to have sauces.
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