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re: Fournette is getting the ball. A lot.

Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:39 pm to
26 a game against 2 teams.

EMU
WKU

from oct on Henry average 30 carries a game.

This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 1:42 pm
Posted by ukweli
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:42 pm to
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26 a game against 2 teams.

EMU
WKU


What a beast.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:43 pm to
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What a beast.


we when you run the ball 80% of the time he is gonna get his.

and you are a queer for not having a team.
Posted by ukweli
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:43 pm to
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from oct on Henry average 30 carries a game.


9 carries against the only non-P5 team he faced from October on.
Posted by ukweli
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:44 pm to
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and you are a queer for not having a team.


How do I get a team logo next to my name?

Nevermind I think I found it.
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:44 pm to


kiss it
Posted by bamabenny
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:44 pm to
Y'all just can't admit that Fournette padded his stats against cupcakes, even though the stats are literally right there.

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:45 pm to
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Y'all just can't admit that Fournette padded his stats against cupcakes, even though the stats are literally right there.



we didn't play our cupcake game.

dude was sitting in 4th quarters. make up whatever you want.
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:08 pm to
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Y'all just can't admit that Fournette padded his stats against cupcakes, even though the stats are literally right there.

But that isn't the point. LF had better yards per carry against their 6 common opponents. That is apples to apples.

Here are some more apples for you. Fournette can do significantly worse than last season, and still be the #2 All-time SEC RB for yards rushed. You can talk about cupcakes all you want, but every one of those all-time SEC RBs played cupcakes too.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:16 pm to
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common opponents
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:01 pm to
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I think Fournette should get the ball less early in the season, so he can be more rested come conference play.

There's no reason for him to carry the ball 25+ times against Eastern Michigan when you have someone like Derrius Guice as the back up.


LF got a ton of his yardage against garbage opponents. Miles seems more inclined to pad his stats against these guys than rest him up to play the big games.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:07 pm to
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LF got a ton of his yardage against garbage opponents


well how many great teams did bama play before the playoffs?
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:25 am to
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LF got a ton of his yardage against garbage opponents


well how many great teams did bama play before the playoffs?


There's a vast gulf between "garbage" and "great".
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:34 am to
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Henry had 395 in 15 games
Fournette had 300 in 12

according to CFBstats.


At 25 carries a game if you know how to add that is 375 carries in 15 games which if you know how to subtract is 20 less than Henry. He also would have had more rushing yards than Henry in those 20 less carries even if his average dropped to 5 yards per carry in those 75.
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:37 am to
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Miles seems more inclined to pad his stats against these guys than rest him up to play the big games.



Miles just runs the ball like all the time. I wouldn't consider that padding stats. Now if he let Harris throw the ball 50 times against a weaker opponent I would say he is trying to pad his stats because he is going out of his norm.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:58 am to
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I doubt Leonard will carry the ball over 40 times a game thou...


Henry averaged 26 carries per game though...
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:03 am to
I think it's just going to naturally happen that he gets slightly less carries. Guice is a proven commodity now, so there's no hesitation to use him and keep Fournette fresh. We aren't giving LF7 the rock 40 times a game like Henry got, this I can tell you.

But Miles is a dumbass so you never know.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 11:07 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:07 am to
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Henry averaged 26 carries per game though...


fournette avg 25. what is the point of this thread again
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:12 am to
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Miles just runs the ball like all the time. I wouldn't consider that padding stats. Now if he let Harris throw the ball 50 times against a weaker opponent I would say he is trying to pad his stats because he is going out of his norm.


Well, perhaps. I don't have a % breakdown of number run vs number of pass plays in, say, conference play vs non-conference play. I only watched LSU fully when they played Alabama, and they had 19 passes and 26 rushes; however, 5 of those rushes were Harris. Two were sacks; no idea if the other three were designed runs or scrambles. That's at least 21 passes vs 24 rushes.

I just checked, and yeah - 506 rushing attempts vs 277 pass attempts. By contrast, Alabama was 642 vs 446, respectively. LSU ran the ball 64.6% of the time (out of 65.25 offensive plays per game); Alabama 59% (Out of 72.5 offensive plays per game).

In his defense, he did get way more pass happy after the Alabama game in the two losses to Arkansas and OM (35 & 51 attempts, respectively). Those two games account for 31% of all passing attempts by LSU.

So, I did keep digging - he threw way more per game in conference games (25.6 att/g) than in non-conference play (18 att/g), and against non-P5, 17 att/g.

I will say that it became clear that "stopping" LF wasn't necessary to beat LSU, just slowing him down. In all three games that LSU lost, they gained less than 200 yards on the ground.
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:20 am to
Henry got around 40 carries in close games or games that mattered. Fournette only broke 30 carries twice, and on a smaller sample size. Huge difference in workload, I can't really remember a RB that was as worked as hard as Henry was last year. Looked back at Laurence Maroney, Montee Ball, etc.
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