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re: Forbes: Saban effect: Everyone wants to go to Alabama

Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:41 pm to
Feel better? That was, well, special.
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:44 pm to
Even if they are bringing in more provisional students, the requirements for the degree remain the same. If the provisional students can't cut it, they won't last long. If they can, that means they got themselves straightened out. Either way, I don't see how that makes my degree worth any less.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:49 pm to
Hey old man, tell us more about how baseball isn't played in stadiums
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:55 pm to
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If you believe the source is inaccurate, explain why and provide another.


I did a few days ago. And I personally like the one that includes ROI as it is a simple equation with only two variables. Cost of degree and lifetime earning with a degree from a given university. Kinda cuts through the clutter and gives you the bottom line.

USN&WR uses stuff like class room size, rentention rate, ultimate graduation rate, acceptance standards and stuff like that. All seriously flawed measure in evaluating the actual quality of the education and value of the degree.

I realize AU and UA are about the same in the USN&WR, but due to it's ranking methodology it is pretty meaningless.

Anyway, no biggie. Signing off for the night. Early day tomorrow.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 9:01 pm to
Using your hypothesis, Bo can't read, makes millions. Auburn academically better?
Posted by Dalosaqy
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 9:08 pm to
It has to be said every day so that the gump nation can feel good about its rather narrow worldview.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 9:12 pm to
I really cannot tell if your oppressed or not.
Posted by Grievous Angel
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 9:27 pm to
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Just use AUA on them. Hell it fits too.


Or Alabama Polytech.
Posted by Grievous Angel
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 9:31 pm to
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LSU is not defined by a coach.


quote:

Eh... you kinda are defined by your coach.


You're both wrong. LSU is defined by OUR coach.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:02 pm to
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JETigER
Forbes: Saban effect: Everyone wants to go to Alabama
LSU is bigger than any coach.

What Program has BCS championships under multiple coaches.

LSU is not defined by a coach.



That 47% that Bama rejects has to go somewhere.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:04 pm to
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mwlewis
Forbes: Saban effect: Everyone wants to go to Alabama
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Can someone quickly bring up the pic of Leslie digging in his ear?


Does he wipe off the ear wax before he reaches for a bite of grass?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:07 pm to
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rangers911
Forbes: Saban effect: Everyone wants to go to Alabama
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You had to know it was only a matter of time before an Auburn fan used the "I know several UA alumni who are unhappy about this" or the even more popular Auburn reply of "guidance counselers say UAT is a garbage school" line. It's inevitably brought up when ANYTHING remotely positive is written about Alabama as a school. As an alumnus, I'm thrilled with what UA leaders have done the last 5 to 10 years. I would like to see them cap enrollment where it is though.


If you are proud of lower grad standards and increasing enrollment that's fine. Most Universities are following that model, Purdue and many others. Some have capped enrollment so as to drive a higher level of student through due to this cap. UA went a different route.

When you are in upper management you don't want a watered down degree, same thing in engineering.


The "241 National Merit Scholars, more than any other public university in the U.S." say you're an idiot.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:19 pm to
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Grievous Angel
Forbes: Saban effect: Everyone wants to go to Alabama
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Just use AUA on them. Hell it fits too.


Or Alabama Polytech.



This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 10:21 pm
Posted by NorthEndZone
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:31 pm to
The Forbes writer should have done a little more research to tell the whole story here.

Alabama is one of the few major public state universities to provide AUTOMATIC full-tuition scholarships to out-of-state students. The requirements are difficult but not extremely so. A 32 ACT is about the 98th percentile nationwide which is similar to National Merit percentiles.

Computer Science and Engineering majors only need a 30 ACT for a full-ride + $2,500.

Many very good out-of-state students appear to be opting for a lower-cost education at Alabama than in their home state. You have to give Alabama credit for creative marketing.

==== ALABAMA ====

University of Alabama
Award: Full Tuition
Residual COA: $13,122/year
Out-of-State Requirements: 3.5 GPA, 32 ACT or 1400 SAT (CR+M)
In-State Requirements: 3.5 GPA, 30 ACT or 1330 SAT (CR+M)

Award: Full Tuition + $2,500/year
Residual COA: $10,622/year
Requirements (Eng/CS Only): 3.5 GPA, ACT 30 or 1330 SAT (CR+M)

LINK

Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:34 pm to
"Auburn has a 70% acceptance rate according to U.S. News.

Stop with the delusion"


I haven't read the last several posts but I'm willing to bet undecided has an explanation for this as well. I remember the popular explanation from Auburn fans explaining the numbers is that the prospective students that choose Auburn are of so much more vastly brilliant and qualified than those that apply to Alabama and this is why Auburn's much higher acceptance rate means nothing. rolleyes:
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 5/14/13 at 12:35 am to
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Many very good out-of-state students appear to be opting for a lower-cost education at Alabama than in their home state. You have to give Alabama credit for creative marketing.
That is how they got me and many of my friends. Because of the very generous national merit scholarship, it was actually cheaper for me to attend Alabama than LSU, and the fact that LSU doesn't match that is incredible to me. I nearly made money going to college at Alabama with the automatic scholarships I got which is something that would have been infinitely more difficult at LSU.
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 12:36 am
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 5/14/13 at 7:37 am to
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That is how they got me and many of my friends. Because of the very generous national merit scholarship, it was actually cheaper for me to attend Alabama than LSU, and the fact that LSU doesn't match that is incredible to me. I nearly made money going to college at Alabama with the automatic scholarships I got which is something that would have been infinitely more difficult at LSU.


Bama needs all the help they can get at attracting good students that are interested in an education.

Now if we are talking attracting football fans and frat daddy's, bama is up to their ears in applications of those types every year - hence the higher than usual turn down rate.
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Posted on 5/14/13 at 7:41 am to
Posted by jdg91878
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Posted on 5/14/13 at 7:51 am to
Are they going to write a slobber piece about the 5 teams that are even more valuable than bama according to this Forbes article or did the rec not fund that
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 7:52 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/14/13 at 7:54 am to
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That is how they got me and many of my friends. Because of the very generous national merit scholarship, it was actually cheaper for me to attend Alabama than LSU, and the fact that LSU doesn't match that is incredible to me. I nearly made money going to college at Alabama with the automatic scholarships I got which is something that would have been infinitely more difficult at LSU.


The southern schools in general are cheaper to attend, than the northern schools. It was about a 1/2 to a 1/3 the cost for me to go out of state to Auburn, than in state in Ohio.
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 8:00 am
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