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re: Forbes: America's Top Universities '13 list out...SEC schools ranking
Posted on 7/25/13 at 4:50 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 7/25/13 at 4:50 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Not the universities fault whatsoever either. And not saying your friend didn't get in but I find it very hard to believe he got a full ride unless he made a 27 or above on the ACT
Unless they have changed it recently, you have to have a 32 or above for a full ride.
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Posted on 7/25/13 at 4:54 pm to blackoutdore
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Anyone else ever notice how Mississippi has an EXCUSE for EVERYTHING?
This one is definitely not an excuse. By MS law, it would be racist for MSU or OM to have higher admissions standards than the HBUs.
Posted on 7/25/13 at 4:55 pm to Bamatab
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quote:get your shite together UT I mean seriously...what in the heck UT. First you allow your football program to drop below Vandy's football program. Then you let your academic programs drop below both MS schools on an academic list (it doesn't even matter what criteria they used to come up with the list). I'm not sure which is worse...wait a minute, being below the MS schools on an academics list is probably way worse.
Posted on 7/25/13 at 4:56 pm to KaiserSoze99
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They probably got hired because A&M is one of the top 5 petroleum engineering schools in the nation, but this is all assuming that you didn't just make shite up.
from my experience the top four petroleum schools are Texas A&M, tu, Tulsa, Colorado School of Mines, and to throw in a fifth, maybe you put Penn State in there. You could argue this is the top tier, and Texas A&M has topped the list many a time or two. Along with tu, the amount of money that gets funneled in to those programs won't be surpassed on that fact alone. But lump in those schools with LSU, Oklahoma, etc, you've cornered the market on a quality education as a petroleum engineer. I mean all the undergrad shite is pretty easy anyway.
Posted on 7/25/13 at 4:59 pm to TeLeFaWx
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But lump in those schools with LSU, Oklahoma, etc, you've cornered the market on a quality education as a petroleum engineer. I mean all the undergrad shite is pretty easy anyway.
As well as job placement. aggressor and I went the rounds in the A&M vs. UT alumni network thread for different reasonings, but we always agreed that the network for engineering out of Aggieland is insane.
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:01 pm to Bassmanbruno
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How so? When I was considering UT's CBE program they tried selling me on becoming a PE after graduation and earning the top engineer discipline salary out there.
Yeah it pays a lot of money, but as far as actual engineering, the amount of chemical coursework wasn't that intensive. You basically learn Darcy's Law a million times over, throw in some statistical analysis, pressure, etc. Like prepare you for the upstream side. Downstream is where all the chemical guys worked, and I don't really have any idea all the shite that happens at a refinery. At least that is how Texas A&M was focused, almost all E&P.
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:01 pm to gorillaballin
Ha! You suck gumps! 
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:02 pm to Henry Jones Jr
A know a DG at Ole Miss who is from LA but couldn't get into LSU so she went to Ole Miss. So what..you hear these type of stories all the time.
Rankings are hilarious. I personally like them because I'm competitive about stupid shite like this. But in general the SEC has a lot of good universities and in general a good majority of our universities could move up. However, the southern stereotype still keeps us down
A lot to do with these rankings include peer reviews, ect. The PR of a university matters a lot in determing the rankings. I was actually looking up top 10 party schools of 2013 the other day and LSU wasn't on any of the lists i found and i know for fact in 2010 when i looked last, i know LSU was top 2-5 in several of them. LSU hasn't stopped partying, we still get down i promise
Could LSU have stopped the media outlets from not mentioning them? I have no idea
I know LSU is in the process of making big strives to become more focused on academics and research. Especially with the LSU 2015 and LSU Flagship 2020 Campaigns.
Last fall my friend who goes to SMU took the same Econ Class as I (Money and Banking). We always compared our tests and junk just for fun. I wasn't impressed with the 40,000 he's paying a year based solely on that class & SMU Cox is supposedly one of the best business schools
Also, whoever said LSU Petro Engineering isn't good is BS'n themselves. It's easily top 5 with Texas, A&M, OU, and CSotM
One thing LSU has going for it (many other SEC colleges can say the same) is our brand. Everyone across the US has heard of LSU. I'd personally rather be ranked where we currently are and have our recognition than be ranked top 50 and have no one know where the hell you went to college. Another example, Alabama has became a hell of a school and should be ranked higher but the association with Alabama hurts them IMO.
Each state flagship has strong programs to provide for the needs of their state. In saying that, with the insane amount of economic development in SLA and with more to come, it has prepared LSU to build a brand new business complex and will break ground for our new engineering complex in 2014. LSU will continue to rise to fit LA's needs, for example the announcement of IBM coming to BR is going to benefit LSU tremendously. The state will invest 14 million toward computer science education and 65% of that will go to LSU to advance our program. They predict it should become a top 15 program in the nation
Your weakest college should show the strength of your university
Rankings are hilarious. I personally like them because I'm competitive about stupid shite like this. But in general the SEC has a lot of good universities and in general a good majority of our universities could move up. However, the southern stereotype still keeps us down
A lot to do with these rankings include peer reviews, ect. The PR of a university matters a lot in determing the rankings. I was actually looking up top 10 party schools of 2013 the other day and LSU wasn't on any of the lists i found and i know for fact in 2010 when i looked last, i know LSU was top 2-5 in several of them. LSU hasn't stopped partying, we still get down i promise
Could LSU have stopped the media outlets from not mentioning them? I have no idea I know LSU is in the process of making big strives to become more focused on academics and research. Especially with the LSU 2015 and LSU Flagship 2020 Campaigns.
Last fall my friend who goes to SMU took the same Econ Class as I (Money and Banking). We always compared our tests and junk just for fun. I wasn't impressed with the 40,000 he's paying a year based solely on that class & SMU Cox is supposedly one of the best business schools
Also, whoever said LSU Petro Engineering isn't good is BS'n themselves. It's easily top 5 with Texas, A&M, OU, and CSotM
One thing LSU has going for it (many other SEC colleges can say the same) is our brand. Everyone across the US has heard of LSU. I'd personally rather be ranked where we currently are and have our recognition than be ranked top 50 and have no one know where the hell you went to college. Another example, Alabama has became a hell of a school and should be ranked higher but the association with Alabama hurts them IMO.
Each state flagship has strong programs to provide for the needs of their state. In saying that, with the insane amount of economic development in SLA and with more to come, it has prepared LSU to build a brand new business complex and will break ground for our new engineering complex in 2014. LSU will continue to rise to fit LA's needs, for example the announcement of IBM coming to BR is going to benefit LSU tremendously. The state will invest 14 million toward computer science education and 65% of that will go to LSU to advance our program. They predict it should become a top 15 program in the nation
Your weakest college should show the strength of your university
This post was edited on 7/25/13 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:04 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Yeah it pays a lot of money, but as far as actual engineering, the amount of chemical coursework wasn't that intensive. You basically learn Darcy's Law a million times over, throw in some statistical analysis, pressure, etc. Like prepare you for the upstream side. Downstream is where all the chemical guys worked, and I don't really have any idea all the shite that happens at a refinery. At least that is how Texas A&M was focused, almost all E&P.
So you're saying its quite a bit easier than ChemE (easily the toughest engineering) but makes the most by quite a wide margin? Wtf?
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:05 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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As well as job placement. aggressor and I went the rounds in the A&M vs. UT alumni network thread for different reasonings, but we always agreed that the network for engineering out of Aggieland is insane.
It's pretty awesome. I had an account major buddy at tu tell me that in the hiring process, if you didn't go to A&M/tu/Rice, your odds of getting hired were insanely low in Houston. And I didn't think A&M's prestige was that great in that area, but their PPA program is top 15 in the country. When A&M does something well, they really do it well.
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:08 pm to Bassmanbruno
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So you're saying its quite a bit easier than ChemE (easily the toughest engineering) but makes the most by quite a wide margin? Wtf?
A lot of being a petroleum engineer is a LOT of business and economics. We had a lot of those classes as well. You're tied directly to a commodity, and that commodity being energy. And it is because of this, I've found petroleum engineers to be the most personable and relatable in the business world. I would think it was easier for me than ChemE would have been, but everyone is different.
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:10 pm to TeLeFaWx
So they are forms of industrial engineers.
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:11 pm to gorillaballin
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282. Tennessee
vololololol
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:12 pm to blackoutdore
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Anyone else ever notice how Mississippi has an EXCUSE for EVERYTHING? Mississippi just needs to get their shite together and stop whining.
Where the frick do you see me making excuses?
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:22 pm to gorillaballin
Also known as "The 2013 list of the most expensive places to buy a degree".
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:46 pm to Bama Bird
Check out the rankings in research spending, which is what attracts top flight professors and you'll get a much more realistic list.
Posted on 7/25/13 at 5:52 pm to Monticello
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Let's look at some legitimate rankings with some actual clout, respect, and reputation like US News.
17. Vandy
54. Florida
63. Georgia
65. Texas a&M
77. Alabama
89. Auburn
97. Missouri
101. Tennessee
115. South Carolina
125. Kentucky
134. Arkansas
134. LSU
151. Ole Miss
160. Mississippi State
+1 all day to this.
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:04 pm to gorillaballin
But but but... missouri is aau!!!! They should be top 10, not one spot ahead of redneck arse university of arkansas!!
Posted on 7/25/13 at 8:41 pm to Bassmanbruno
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So they are forms of industrial engineers.
Not at all.
Posted on 7/25/13 at 9:08 pm to Ross
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Let's look at some legitimate rankings with some actual clout, respect, and reputation like US News.
Respect and reputation by whom? Among professional academics, US News is regarded as drivel. Universities use US News because of marketing advantages when favorable to them, but not because of any belief in validity.
US News has been successful in hyping their rankings by clever marketing, but don't confuse succesful marketing with validity.
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