re: Forbes: America's Top Universities '13 list out...SEC schools ranking

Ten pages of SEC fans discussing academics. This is a good thing.

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I don't believe there are 204 better schools than Alabama; certainly not 224 better schools than Auburn. South Carolina being one of them

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Depends on what for. Which is why these lists are always flawed. South Carolina is a good business and law school. Auburn's business school isn't that great (I don't think?) and we don't even have law. But for someone like myself (biology undergrad) it blows SC out of the water.

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37. Vanderbilt
74. Florida
90. Georgia
122. Texas A&M
179. LSU
190. S. Carolina

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BIG SIX!

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I love when they use acceptance rate. Every bammer with a GED is applying for acceptance into the school, so they can party and get football tickets. What the survey needs to show is the ACT/SAT Score of those turned away.

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Holy shite are you stupid.

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Holy shite are you stupid.

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While his GED comment is stupid, the acceptance rate being used as criteria is BS

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2. Pomona College
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8. Harvard



US News is the ranking system that is generally considered to be THE ranking system.

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Not really. US News is the best known but not necessarily the most respected. Their system rewards small private schools and they have some flawed methodology. Some examples:

They reward schools greatly for class sizes and graduation rates. It's a great deal easier for a private school with 2k students to have better ratios on those items than a 40 or 50k public school.

They do a poor job of verifying numbers and allow schools (esp private schools) to manipulate them. For instance Baylor has jumped in the rankings significantly in recent years partly because they instigated a program of paying current students to re-take their SAT's to improve their scores. They have A&M's Endowment listed at $358 million by some bizarre calculation (likely dismissing the Permanent University Fund and counting the rest of our endowment as shared amongst the entire System) when the actual Endowment is about $7 Billion.

In the end the best way to compare schools is to try to put apples to apples as much as possible. Comparing large publics to small privates is ridiculous. You might as well compare an F-350 to a Mustang.

I don't know how you put A&M in a tier below UF. Both are large and prestigious public schools that are AAU members. A&M has a larger research spend and far larger endowment than either UF or Vandy.

University Ranking By Fortune 500 Company Recruiters


This is the REAL ranking which matters when you start getting paid.

Texas A&M ranked number 2 nationwide.

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ETA: Georgia Tech at 83?

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That alone makes this a shite list.

Ga Tech should at least be top 20, if not top 15.