re: For all of the LSU fans...

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Easily one of the most retarded comments I have seen on here.

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Funny, I was thinking the same thing about yours.





Penn State's recruiting base...which in the age of the internet is easy to Google, thus there is no excuse for your ignorance...is the entire Northeastern US plus Canada. The Lions also get quite a few players from Maryland, Ohio, and nationally.

The Northeastern US has two of the largest states in the union, New York and Pennsylvania. The Southeast has Florida only.

There is no other consistently successful major college football program in all of the area.

Pitt? Not a major player, coming off a bowl loss. Syracuse? Coming off a losing season. BC? Just committed football suicide.

In a hypothetical situation where Nick Saban goes to Penn State, he would have an unchallenged position to select, not recruit, from a larger population base than he would at Alabama.

Just the facts.

Saban would pull ALOT of players at PSU...

Saban/PSU vs Miles/Michigan... I could see that after he gets Miles canned and then moves on after a NC here.

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How many of you honestly think Nick Saban is unhappy at Alabama and will leave for another job before he retires?

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I don't think the man is ever happy,period. He just happens to be in Tuscaloosa right now.Its nothing against the Tide,I just will be surprised if he stays there much longer.He's like Larry Brown.

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I know it can be difficult for you guys to offer an honest opinion due to the joy you all get from stirring the Alabama fan base,

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Odd take. I guess we get as much "joy" as the Alabama fans here get from stirring the LSU fan base.

don't know and don't care.

Only thing I care about is LSU. As long as our program stays strong, we will win our share and thats all i care about.

Oh...you want me to explain why you are an idiot? OK then.
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Penn State has a bigger recruiting base than the entire SEC combined.

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To suggest that Penn State University has a larger recruiting base than all 12 schools, from 9 states in the SEC is beyond absurd. Either look at a map, or employ basic arithmetic. Or you could factor things like the SEC's success compared to Penn State. But if you still want to walk around with your head up your arse then consider the reponses below:
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Penn State's recruiting base...is the entire Northeastern US plus Canada. The Lions also get quite a few players from Maryland, Ohio, and nationally. The Northeastern US has two of the largest states in the union, New York and Pennsylvania. The Southeast has Florida only.

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I'll bet that the players that compromise the 12 teams of the SEC come from nearly every state in the Union, as well as Canada and many other countries. LSU alone has 17 players on it's roster from Texas (that's kind of a big state).
As for those power recruiting bases of PA and NY that you mention, The states of Florida and MS produce more Div 1 football players than PA and NY combined.
Canada? Really? There are probably more Div 1 players from the New Orleans metro area than there are from the entire country of Canada.

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There is no other consistently successful major college football program in all of the area.

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Ever heard of Ohio State? Or Michigan? Or Notre Dame? Where do they recruit from?

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In a hypothetical situation where Nick Saban goes to Penn State, he would have an unchallenged position to select, not recruit, from a larger population base than he would at Alabama.

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Last I checked Coach Saban was doing quite well in recruiting in little ole Alabama, just like he did at little ole LSU. I don't think he needs the all encompassing Universal recruting base of gigantoid SEC killer Penn State that you imagine exists.

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Oh...you want me to explain why you are an idiot? OK then.
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Penn State has a bigger recruiting base than the entire SEC combined.


To suggest that Penn State University has a larger recruiting base than all 12 schools, from 9 states in the SEC is beyond absurd. Either look at a map, or employ basic arithmetic. Or you could factor things like the SEC's success compared to Penn State. But if you still want to walk around with your head up your arse then consider the reponses below:
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Penn State's recruiting base...is the entire Northeastern US plus Canada. The Lions also get quite a few players from Maryland, Ohio, and nationally. The Northeastern US has two of the largest states in the union, New York and Pennsylvania. The Southeast has Florida only.


I'll bet that the players that compromise the 12 teams of the SEC come from nearly every state in the Union, as well as Canada and many other countries. LSU alone has 17 players on it's roster from Texas (that's kind of a big state).
As for those power recruiting bases of PA and NY that you mention, The states of Florida and MS produce more Div 1 football players than PA and NY combined.
Canada? Really? There are probably more Div 1 players from the New Orleans metro area than there are from the entire country of Canada.

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There is no other consistently successful major college football program in all of the area.


Ever heard of Ohio State? Or Michigan? Or Notre Dame? Where do they recruit from?

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In a hypothetical situation where Nick Saban goes to Penn State, he would have an unchallenged position to select, not recruit, from a larger population base than he would at Alabama.


Last I checked Coach Saban was doing quite well in recruiting in little ole Alabama, just like he did at little ole LSU. I don't think he needs the all encompassing Universal recruting base of gigantoid SEC killer Penn State that you imagine exists.

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What are you, like 12? Take the name calling back to the playground.

The facts are, the northeast has a higher population than the southeast. I'm not making that up, that's basic math, for those of you who can't count that high.

Ohio State and the other schools are in the midwest, not the northeast, last time I checked.

And yes, geography is a factor because the current trend among high school seniors, not all but many, is to want to play close to home. The driving distance for their parents to see them play is the issue.

These are facts, don't try to dazzle me with BS. Just the facts ma'am.

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The facts are, the northeast has a higher population than the southeast. I'm not making that up, that's basic math, for those of you who can't count that high.

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China has a higher population than America, but I bet we would beat the crap out of them in football. The population of the Northeast is irrelavant when compared to the smaller populated but more fertile recruiting ground that is the American South, which is the recruiting base for the SEC.

Your logic is totally flawed. I called you an idiot because you said something idiotic and I was exasperated from trying to show you the truth. Sorry for that. But please consider that you are totally erroneous and ridiculous.

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Ohio State and the other schools are in the midwest, not the northeast, last time I checked.

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Each of the schools I mentioned either borders the state of PA, or is less than 6 hours drive to State College. And they are all in the same conference. This is like saying that Louisiana is in the Gulf South, not the Southeast, so therefore LSU doesn't compete with Alabama for recruits. That would be an incorrect statement also. Do you understand yet and can you admit that you are wrong?

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And yes, geography is a factor because the current trend among high school seniors, not all but many, is to want to play close to home. The driving distance for their parents to see them play is the issue.

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How do you know what the current trend is? While your statement sounds logical enough, geography has always been a factor for recruiting. However, in today's world of the internet and multiple sports channels, and non stop football coverage, I would wager that this is less important than it was 20 years ago. I think that contrary to what you are stating as fact (even though it is really just your subjective opinion) kids commit to play at schools all over the country. Which is why you do see kids from CA playing in the SEC, and vice versa, this didn't seem as prevalent 20 years ago.

Incidently the defending national champs Florida have players from 13 states represented on their roster. Penn State has 16. LSU has 16, Alabama has 15, but Vanderbilt has 20 states represented. What does this tell you? Based on your argument does Vanderbilt then have a larger recruiting base than Penn State and Florida?

So the bottom line of what I want to stress to you is this: the Northeast sucks compared to the South in producing Div 1 NCAA football players. The base of recruiting for the 12 schools of the SEC is regional yes (probably spanning about 14-15 states) but they also recruit nationally quite well. The population of the Northeast is irrelevant. There is no way that anyone can factually argue that Penn State has a larger recruting base than all 12 schools of the SEC combined. Nick Saban has and will continue to recruit well at Alabama, and in spite of any secret desires that he will screw Bama and take another job, he doesn't need to. He may suprise all the haters and stay in Tuscaloosa until he retires.

Your statement remains one of the most retarded pieces of dribble I have ever read on Tigerdroppings, and that is saying something. Congrats to you for that.

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How many of you honestly think Nick Saban is unhappy at Alabama and will leave for another job before he retires?

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I think Nick is the kind of guy that feels he needs a new challenge every few years. But, I do think that Bama is one of the few places that could pay him enough money that could quell those desires for new challenges (as long as he's still successful).

Given his age, and the proclivity he has already shown for being Nomadic, I really don't see how he retires at Bama.

I dont. I have said all along he will retire from Bama, as long as booster dont get involved.