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re: Florida AG launches formal anti-trust investigation of the CFP.

Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:54 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43407 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:54 am to
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Therefore, the committee is making up phony criteria that isn’t found in the CFP charter.


Oh really?

Here, I'll highlight the part you seem to be unable to read:

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The selection committee will select the teams using a process that distinguishes among otherwise comparable teams by considering:
Conference championships won,
Strength of schedule,
Head-to-head competition,
Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and,
Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
935 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:54 am to
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No standing


This investigation is designed to determine if there is standing. The CFP is a state of Texas LLC so their conduct can be examined if financial harm occurred in other states.

As an anti-trust situation it would involve the financial impact on FSU and any of the ACC schools that would have split the broadcast revenue.

ESPN could easily be pulled in as well because they are supposed to be neutral, but as we all know, their narrative clearly indicated otherwise.
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:58 am to
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Total waste of taxpayer money.


This.

If anyone supports this, then they are simply butthurt. They would rather waste taxpayer dollars chasing the boogeyman, and they are part of the problem.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25953 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:58 am to
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Explain to all us fine folks here how a Florida AG has standing to bring suit against an entity that was not organized, or currently resides, in the state of Florida.

First
The antitrust investigation includes ESPN.
It includes the ncaa.
It includes the college football playoff committee.

Those are 3 groups who were all "organized" in preparing the college football playoffs.

Second. The state of Florida is working on behalf of the Federal Trade Commission. I'm not sure if you are "hoping" that they don't have teeth? Or why you are doubting their capacity.

Third: damages can equal 3 times indemnification. This is punitive.

There isn't a lawsuit.
Only an investigation.
But ESPN (i.e. DEIsney) wouldn't be sloppy or anything. Would they? They would be above reproach in all of their correspondence and influence.

Good luck with that.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25953 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:00 am to
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Precedent hurts the committee and is why this will move forward.


Until the committee shows the contract that all conferences agreed to.

Then the CFP would be in violation all of the previous years.

You don't know what precedence is.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43407 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:01 am to
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It includes the ncaa.


The NCAA has absolutely nothing to do with the CFP.

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Second. The state of Florida is working on behalf of the Federal Trade Commission.


Where did you see this? Because it's not in the article from the OP.

Unless the Feds get involved, the CFP can tell the Florida AG to frick off. Period.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 10:02 am
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:12 am to
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illegal


What law was broken? The only law that anyone in this thread has speculated about is anti-trust law... and I say speculated because there is zero evidence to support this law being broken. I can make up allegations too.

The committee's job will always have some subjectivity. Because their decision didn't align with what the loud, whiney, majority wanted... that subjective element is now an 'illegal' act that breaks anti-trust law because of collusion. Huge, stupid leap.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25953 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:18 am to
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Where did you see this? Because it's not in the article from the OP.

The federal trade commission website is pretty straight forward.
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It includes the ncaa.


The NCAA has absolutely nothing to do with the CFP

The CFP just formed out of nowhere? Like Athena out of the clam shell?
Where did the CFP get its authority? You seem to like to question where an institution gets its authority.
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Unless the Feds get involved, the CFP can tell the Florida AG to frick off. Period.

The feds are involved in the form of the state attorney general. The states enforce the laws of the federal trade commission.
You seem to think that the FTC has a bunch of stormtroopers investigating laws. All of that can start with the state attorney general.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2126 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:20 am to
Beta move
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25953 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:25 am to
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The only law that anyone in this thread has speculated about is anti-trust law... and I say speculated because there is zero evidence to support this law being broken


Zero evidence?

Your definition of zero is as stretched as Dolly Parton's bra strap.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43407 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:26 am to
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The federal trade commission website is pretty straight forward.


Where, in writing, does it state the FTC (or any other federal entity) is involved in this investigation?

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The CFP just formed out of nowhere? Like Athena out of the clam shell?
Where did the CFP get its authority? You seem to like to question where an institution gets its authority.


Explain how the CFP draws it's authority from the NCAA and not from the Universities that agreed to the CFP charter?

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The feds are involved in the form of the state attorney general. The states enforce the laws of the federal trade commission.


In their respective states. Does the CFP LLC operate inside the state of Florida?

Listen, I get it. You operate on your emotions, and right now your emotions tell you to hate Bama. So now you will come up with every little excuse you can think of to punish Bama, including this political stunt by the Florida AG.

The problem being that any rational person (outside of grandstanding politicians) understands this suit is going absolutely nowhere. You have absolutely no understanding of what you're talking about, and reply solely based on your unhinged hatred.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 10:29 am
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:28 am to
So provide us all evidence of these illegal activities and broken laws. I'll wait.

And your analogies are tired.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 10:29 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25953 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:34 am to
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The federal trade commission website is pretty straight forward.


Where, in writing, does it state the FTC (or any other federal entity) is involved in this investigation?


Google ftc/antitrust enforcement.
You're welcome. Happy reading.

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The CFP just formed out of nowhere? Like Athena out of the clam shell?
Where did the CFP get its authority? You seem to like to question where an institution gets its authority.


Explain how the CFP draws it's authority from the NCAA and not from the Universities that agreed to the CFP charter?

My bad. The same universities who make up the majority of ncaa D1 sports make up the authority for the college football playoff committee.
It is not synonymous even though it is a majority of the same universities.
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The feds are involved in the form of the state attorney general. The states enforce the laws of the federal trade commission.


In their respective states. Does the CFP LLC operate inside the state of Florida?

Yes
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:37 am to
The 'Google Time' between your responses is increasing... and yielding worse and worse results
Posted by XbengalTiger
212 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
5465 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:37 am to
yadda, yadda, yadda
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1/9/12
yadda, yadda, yadda.

So many gumps holding on to a game from over a decade ago.

Hey gump, who was the SEC Champ that year?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25953 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:38 am to
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So provide us all evidence of these illegal activities and broken laws. I'll wait.


Good. The investigation is underway.

Feel free to look up nepotism, precedence, and college football playoff payouts.

While you are looking that up, the attorney general will work on looking up email, texts, calendars, and correspondences between the involved parties.

No one has anything to hide because no one had anything to gain? Is that your official position before the investigation?
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:38 am to
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that year


Who is the SEC Champ this year?
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:40 am to
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So provide us all evidence of these illegal activities and broken laws.


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The investigation is underway.


Thank you for proving my point that all of your whining is speculation
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25953 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:40 am to
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The 'Google Time' between your responses is increasing... and yielding worse and worse results


Juggling work and entitled Bama fans with 87 unquestioned national championships is tough. But you guys seem to take it easy on me.
Blinders will do that to a fanbase.
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:41 am to
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Juggling work


Lunchtime at Taco Bell? Or is it Del Taco in GA?
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