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re: Finebaum on UGA...can this stat be true?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:52 pm to VFL1800FPD
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:52 pm to VFL1800FPD
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because having the same coach at your school since the early '00s is the exact same situation as having to recover from having 4 coaches in 6 years and all the player attrition associated with that.
So Tennessee is at a disadvantage because they sucked really bad. Got it.
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:52 pm to WorkinDawg
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UGA historically had a team full of monster skill guys but no monster lineman.
5 star line and 3 star skill beat 3 star line and 5 star skill
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:52 pm to Robert Goulet
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Honest question, what was this change?
Honest answer.
There is a pretty clear culture change going on now within the program, and it can't be understated how much of it is on Pruitt. Yeah yeah, I know...teams change coordinators all the time. But our 2010-2013 teams were just kinda...going through the motions. We were stale outside of 2012.
Enter pruitt and his supporting cast of hungry assistants. At the top level, we've put a better defense on the field and it should only get better. But it's more than that. Have you noticed that we have had a grand total of ZERO arrests this offseason? That's unheard of for us, like I almost can't believe it. We've moved forward with an indoor practice facility one year within pruitt being here that richt hasn't been able to get in 14 years. We've finally brought our S&C into the 21st century and left behind Joe Tereshinkis's mandlebaum-style old school ways. We have a full "support" staff like the other big boys in the league have had for years.
Really, it's just all about getting serious about winning. We're a big school so obviously we've always wanted to win. But you can see tangible, actual things now that prove that that weren't there before.
Basically, it's just a shift in our entire culture. Not to mention that we are stockpiling talent as well. I'm not saying we're going to win x y or z in the next however many years...but I haven't felt that our future is as promising in a while.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:53 pm to slacker130
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I figured on this board...probably.
wrong
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:54 pm to VFL1800FPD
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having to recover from having 4 coaches in 6 years and all the player attrition associated with that.
whose fault is that? It still happened, and it happened to tennessee.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:56 pm to Robert Goulet
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Honest question, what was this change?
The only thing UGA really worked hard at was making sure they didn't portray a lot of hard work geared towards "athletics" (this mindset is how you end up playing an elim game vs #1 Bama with 66 players). We were outspent, out manned, and WAY under-leveraged.
In comes Pruitt, who knows exactly what it takes to win at the highest level, we got a new more athletic friendly president, and probably some big $$ guys who were simply tired of their AU/Bama/LSU golf buddies trading the crystal ball every year.
Things couldn't be more different. Will it pay off? We'll see. But I suspect it will.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:56 pm to td01241
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But Mark Richt sucks I thought
Mark Richt is a good coach. He has you in contention every year, and he hasn't failed to make a bowl since he's been there. Cant argue with the facts there
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:57 pm to ATLdawg25
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So Tennessee is at a disadvantage because they sucked really bad. Got it.
Were at a disadvantage, but you're not, and you still cant win the SEC
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:00 pm to WG_Dawg
So you're gonna finally have an indoor practice field longer than 20 yrds?!
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:01 pm to WG_Dawg
You know what the other difference between UGA and the other schools is? An administration that demanded the coach never oversign, punish first and second drug offenses with game time lost as well as an active Athens police department that led to more game time lost, a pretty active acceptance committee that turned quite a few down that ended up elsewhere, and a very active punt foot that meant plenty of talent ended up elsewhere. A crazy amount of injuries in years like 2008 and 2013 didn't help out much either.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:02 pm to BigOrangeVols
that's not an IPF but I guess the first thousand times that's been said it didn't get through.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:02 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Were at a disadvantage, but you're not, and you still cant win the SEC
Being bad at football is not a disadvantage. It is just being bad at football.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:02 pm to SoGaFan
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You know what the other difference between UGA and the other schools is? An administration that demanded the coach never oversign, punish first and second drug offenses with game time lost as well as an active Athens police department that led to more game time lost, a pretty active acceptance committee that turned quite a few down that ended up elsewhere, and a very active punt foot that meant plenty of talent ended up elsewhere. A crazy amount of injuries in years like 2008 and 2013 didn't help out much either.
I had yalls back in this thread until this postPosted on 8/21/15 at 2:02 pm to ATLdawg25
lol
"we were at a disadvantage because we sucked so bad! What's your excuse!?"
"we were at a disadvantage because we sucked so bad! What's your excuse!?"
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:03 pm to WG_Dawg
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WG_Dawg
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WorkinDawg
Thanks for the thought out replies.
Count me as one not paying attention because I didn't ever really think about UGA underspending on facilities and such. I always assumed yall had nice stuff like everyone else, save for the IPF which has been well chronicled on here.
I had also heard mixed reviews about Pruitt on the field and didn't know he had such an impact off the field. It surprises me that a coach with as much success as Richt couldn't get his way with that stuff.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:06 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Prettyboy Floyd
Your avi, there's a turtle head pokin'.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:06 pm to ATLdawg25
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eing bad at football is not a disadvantage. It is just being bad at football.
You're at a disadvantage when you have 4 coaches in 6 years. Yes, we brought it upon ourselves in the grand scheme of things, but we are recovering now and should be back to a normal playing field soon.
But...what's your argument here? because you have no such disadvantage, and you still can't win the big one
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:07 pm to Robert Goulet
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It surprises me that a coach with as much success as Richt couldn't get his way with that stuff.
I think this had more to do with the administration change than anything. As soon as Michael Adams (UGA President) left things started to make a dramatic shift.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:09 pm to Robert Goulet
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It surprises me that a coach with as much success as Richt couldn't get his way with that stuff.
CMR has to have an alph-dawg on staff to be successful. Brian Van Gorder played that role perfectly early on. He was a badass and the kids were terrified of him.
Pruitt didn't come here to make friends. He came here to win. And he doesn't give a shat what anyone thinks about that. I suspect he relates to the South Ga big $$ guys and throws his weight disproportionately to what a DC should. In a way he really has UGA by the ballz. If our program slips back to 3-4 loss seasons I do think the $$ will finally dry up.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:10 pm to VFL1800FPD
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You're at a disadvantage when you have 4 coaches in 6 years. Yes, we brought it upon ourselves in the grand scheme of things, but we are recovering now and should be back to a normal playing field soon.
You almost had it right, but then you added "but...".
There is no but. You had 4 coaches in 6 years because your program was (is?) bad. You were the second best team in Tennessee. I only say second because I am honestly not sure how good MTSU has been.
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