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Posted on 10/20/22 at 2:51 pm to Lonnie Utah
I think ancient China was greater than Rome. They invented paper, gunpowder, the compass and printing. Paper currency. The tooth brush. The crossbow. Oil refining. Oil wells. Iron creation and refining. Rockets. Rotary fans. Tea. Soy sauce.
The Romans didn't develop all that much themselves. That took what other civilizations invented and used them. Aquaducts and plumbing? That was the greeks. Things like roads and postal services? Many other civilizations did that before Rome did, just not to the same degree.
The only real roman inventions of note were concrete and sub-floor heating.
Mustard was cultivated by the Indus Valley civilization long before Rome existed. yellow mustard paste was also used in china in 1000 BC.
Rome really wasn't great at inventing things. They were great at taking things others invented and putting them into widespread use.
The Romans didn't develop all that much themselves. That took what other civilizations invented and used them. Aquaducts and plumbing? That was the greeks. Things like roads and postal services? Many other civilizations did that before Rome did, just not to the same degree.
The only real roman inventions of note were concrete and sub-floor heating.
Mustard was cultivated by the Indus Valley civilization long before Rome existed. yellow mustard paste was also used in china in 1000 BC.
Rome really wasn't great at inventing things. They were great at taking things others invented and putting them into widespread use.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 2:53 pm to DawginSC
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I think ancient China was greater than Rome. They invented paper, gunpowder, the compass and printing. Paper currency. The tooth brush. The crossbow. Oil refining. Oil wells. Iron creation and refining. Rockets. Rotary fans. Tea. Soy sauce.
The Romans didn't develop all that much themselves. That took what other civilizations invented and used them. Aquaducts and plumbing? That was the greeks. Things like roads and postal services? Many other civilizations did that before Rome did, just not to the same degree.
The only real roman inventions of note were concrete and sub-floor heating.
Mustard was cultivated by the Indus Valley civilization long before Rome existed. yellow mustard paste was also used in china in 1000 BC.
Rome really wasn't great at inventing things. They were great at taking things others invented and putting them into widespread use.
Will any of these things get aggie riled up before our game this weekend? If so, I'm all for it....
Posted on 10/20/22 at 2:57 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Will any of these things get aggie riled up before our game this weekend? If so, I'm all for it....
Don't know.
But when people post incorrect historical notes in a thread (even if it's meant for another purpose like riling someone up) I have an OCD push to correct them.
The Romans weren't the greatest ancient civilization. Heck, even without the eastern civilizations I don't even think Rome is tops amongst the western ones.
The Greeks would get that nod from me. Or maybe the Egyptians if you consider northern Africa as western.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 3:13 pm to DawginSC
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They were great at taking things others invented
As a very early example of this, in the Punic Wars that pitted the Romans against the Carthaginians, the Romans had a decided advantage hand-to-hand, but a huge disadvantage at sea.
So they copied the build of a Carthaginian warship, built an entire fleet of them, and added a corvus to each, which was a huge swinging bridge with a spike on the end.
Knowing they couldn't outsail their opponent, they would instead pull-up alongside, deploy the bridge, and invade their ship where they could then regain a combat advantage.
It didn't win the war by itself, but this ability to quickly copy what was available to them helped the Romans to ultimately conquer the Carthage empire, which was perhaps the dominant power of the region. (Without this victory, the Romans probably never become a superpower.)
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 3:39 pm to Lonnie Utah
Williams Bros. Classic Carolina 
Posted on 10/20/22 at 3:51 pm to Lonnie Utah
Good BBQ doesnt need no sauce, espeically a well smoked brisket.
Heck, we're even better at smoking pork than yall are these days. Getcha some good ribs or pulled pork at most of the top restaurants and you can discover that you dont actually need a metric ton of sauce poured over the top to cover up the taste.
Heck, we're even better at smoking pork than yall are these days. Getcha some good ribs or pulled pork at most of the top restaurants and you can discover that you dont actually need a metric ton of sauce poured over the top to cover up the taste.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 3:52 pm to bigDgator
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That looks delicious, but no, Carolina cannot hold a candle to Texas BBQ. Sorry
Yeah you wrong tho. If I wanted a dessert on top of my BBQ I would use cool whip. Mustard far superior as a base for sauce
Posted on 10/20/22 at 3:53 pm to DawginSC
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The only real roman inventions of note were concrete and sub-floor heating.
You forgot to include military tactics and organization. The most important military advancement was development of the legion, along with weapons that maximized the effectiveness of the legion's small-unit capabilities - namely, the gladius (short stabbing sword), the scutum (the rectangular shield) and the pila (short throwing/stabbing javelin).
The small-unit capabilities and maneuverability of the legion structure (including cohorts and centuries, along with cavalry) is what allowed them to conquer nearly everything they set their eyes on - thus acquiring the other inventions you mentioned.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 3:54 pm to Lonnie Utah
The elite were also big time into honey and bee pollen etc.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 3:55 pm to bigDgator
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Carolina cannot hold a candle to Texas BBQ
“Texas BBQ” doesn’t exist
Posted on 10/20/22 at 4:03 pm to CNB
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Carolina cannot hold a candle to Texas BBQ
“Texas BBQ” doesn’t exist
According to the locals here, the only authentic BBQ is KC Style. They think they invented slow-cooking cows in yummy sauces...
Posted on 10/20/22 at 4:06 pm to Lonnie Utah
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If it ain't pork, it ain't BBQ..
Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of some swine, but there's nothing better than a properly smoked brisket.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 4:15 pm to DawginSC
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The Romans weren't the greatest ancient civilization
It depends on what you mean by "civilization", doesn't it? Are you judging by technical or cultural advancement? Land mass and population under their control? Military prowess? Trade?
If we get to choose our own criteria, then an argument could be made that the Steppe Nomads (which includes the Mongols) we're the greatest ancient civilization. They controlled a majority of the known world, and probably would have ruled it all if not for the sudden death of the Khan that made them all return to their homeland to select a new leader.
Assuming that's how you classify civilizations, of course.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 4:48 pm to Lonnie Utah
This bullshite about brisket.
Look, I like brisket just fine. It's a nice change of pace.
But it's not barbecue. It's brisket.
Look, I like brisket just fine. It's a nice change of pace.
But it's not barbecue. It's brisket.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 5:09 pm to DawginSC
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if you consider northern Africa as western
Posted on 10/20/22 at 6:11 pm to Lonnie Utah
Hey Lonnie, is there a quiz after this thread? Go ahead and flunk me…haha
Posted on 10/20/22 at 6:29 pm to Lonnie Utah
Aggies follow the motto of the armies of ancient Greece
"Never leave a man's behind"
"Never leave a man's behind"
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:05 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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Carolina had my heart when I discovered a burger topped with pulled pork and cole slaw.
I went to Winston -Salem for a conference years ago and had that for lunch one of the days. Great burger imo.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:07 pm to Texas Gentleman
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Heck, we're even better at smoking pole than yall are these days
FIFY
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