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re: ESPN would facilitate the SEC poaching VT/NCST from the ACC.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 3:18 pm to Jamie Lannister
Posted on 7/2/15 at 3:18 pm to Jamie Lannister
Well yeah we know that they consider themselves too good for the SEC. That is why most dream of the PAC.
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 3:35 pm to Mirthomatic
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What is this supposed to prove? That this fan prefers the B1G to the SEC? Cool. Also, irrelevant. Does this fan also prefer the current B12 lineup over an SEC conference schedule? That would be evidence to support your position.
Some of them seem unhappy with the current BIG 12 schedule but it is mostly over failure to keep Nebraska or to get Louisville. Nobody is complaining they have to play Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, etc. A few said something about Kansas and Iowa State.
For Olkahoama, they talk more about joining PAC 10. I don't see many making a case that Okla join SEC
I think most texas and olkhoama fans would prefer the big 12 add two decent programs, not leave the conference altogether
I think eventually ACC will get West Virginia.
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 7/2/15 at 3:41 pm to Jamie Lannister
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I think most texas and olkhoama fans would prefer the big 12 add two decent programs, not leave the conference altogether
Yeah but then you read this list of what they consider "decent programs" and none of them the Big 12 can get. They dream of Arky and LSU, they can get UCF and Cincy.
That shows you what they want their conference to be and what it actually is. That kind of variance builds dissonance.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 3:53 pm to Jamie Lannister
What thread are you reading?
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:08 pm to cardboardboxer
lol
nobody dreams of lsu and arky.
I have heard of arky going to big 12 rumors for like 25 years though
nobody dreams of lsu and arky.
I have heard of arky going to big 12 rumors for like 25 years though
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:19 pm to Jamie Lannister
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nobody dreams of lsu and arky.
Dude, LSU/Arky is their current dream scenario
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I have heard of arky going to big 12 rumors for like 25 years though
That would be quite a trick, given that the B12 was established in 1994, and they didn't even begin play until 1996.
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:26 pm to Jamie Lannister
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lol
nobody dreams of lsu and arky.
Have you read all 42,000+ posts in that Shaggybevo thread? I have, and I can tell you their best case scenario is Arky and LSU leave the SEC. They all admit the best expansion options are already in a Power 5 conference.
You can't just stumble into this subject and in a few days really know what you are talking about. Some of us have been following Realignment for years. I have probably read over 70 thousand forum posts total on the subject on over a dozen forums. I promise I know what almost every Big 12 fanbase thinks about realignment better than you.
Stick to representing a Clemson/ACC perspective.
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:47 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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No you aren't. Outside of football games, which only happen 12 times a year (regular season), what is the draw to the SEC? It sure isn't academics. It sure isn't a share of the pile of billions of dollars in federal research money. It sure isn't to be apart of the AAU.
The CIC is just a collaboration. It isn't worth billions, it's cost saving measures. Those schools get research money with it without CIC membership. Trust me. Nebraska will never have more research money than Texas A&M.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:48 pm to Jamie Lannister
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lol
nobody dreams of lsu and arky.
That's the Big 12's current pipe dream. They would be the 3rd and 4th best programs in that conference. Why wouldn't they want them?
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:49 pm to Jamie Lannister
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Some of them seem unhappy with the current BIG 12 schedule but it is mostly over failure to keep Nebraska or to get Louisville. Nobody is complaining they have to play Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, etc. A few said something about Kansas and Iowa State.
Have you ever met a Big 12 fan? You are just 100% wrong.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:49 pm to cardboardboxer
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I have probably read over 70 thousand forum posts total on the subject on over a dozen forums. I promise I know what almost every Big 12 fanbase thinks about realignment better than you
lol nobody doubts you know more about conference realignment.
but, what you know is only what people on the internet have posted. Majority of fans at every college do not post about their school on the internet.
I think majority of a college students and grads prefer the regional rivalries. People have friends who go to the other schools and you like beating each other and talking trash at work. ANd being able to drive to a lot of different campuses is appealing too
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:50 pm to Jamie Lannister
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I think majority of a college students and grads prefer the regional rivalries. People have friends who go to the other schools and you like beating each other and talking trash at work. ANd being able to drive to a lot of different campuses is appealing too
TCU is a small private school. Their living alumni probably couldn't fill up their stadium. No one cares about them.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:51 pm to TeLeFaWx
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That's the Big 12's current pipe dream. They would be the 3rd and 4th best programs in that conference. Why wouldn't they want them?
I'm only poking fun of 'they dream of LSU and arky'.
it's hyperbole.
why would programs like Kansas want two more good teams? even programs like Texas would be basically agreeing to make it harder to win the conference
when BIG 10 expanded, they took Rutgers and Maryland, not powerhouses. this is supposed to be a big money conference that anybody would want to be in
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:52 pm to TeLeFaWx
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TCU is a small private school. Their living alumni probably couldn't fill up their stadium. No one cares about them.
why did big 12 offer them so quick then
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:54 pm to Jamie Lannister
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Jamie Lannister
No avatar King-slayer? I am quite dissapointed. I clicked on this thread to see what clever one you had, when i saw your name on the board as the last post. I half expected to see a simple gold hand.
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:57 pm to Jamie Lannister
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why did big 12 offer them so quick then
Because A&M left them in a shitty spot they needed 10 members to fulfill their TV obligations.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 4:59 pm to Jamie Lannister
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why would programs like Kansas want two more good teams? even programs like Texas would be basically agreeing to make it harder to win the conference
Because fan interest is more than just playing a double directional school every week. The Red River Shootout is the only game the people in Austin even care about any more. Their season ticket renewals are WAY down.
Dude. You're just wrong. Have you ever lived in Texas? You don't know how anything works over here.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 5:01 pm to Jamie Lannister
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but, what you know is only what people on the internet have posted. Majority of fans at every college do not post about their school on the internet.
I think majority of a college students and grads prefer the regional rivalries. People have friends who go to the other schools and you like beating each other and talking trash at work. ANd being able to drive to a lot of different campuses is appealing too
And we're telling you, over and over--which if you're trolling, solid effort--that our personal experience directly contradicts what you "think". People don't just want to see close teams play close teams. That's why the ACC doesn't expand w/ UCF and USF. Or Eastern Carolina.
If you were right, the SWC would never have folded, because according to you, a conference where all schools are in easy driving distance should be ideal. But it wasn't. It failed.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 5:03 pm to Jamie Lannister
NC State is a no brainer, and will eventually happen imo. Not sure where the other team will come from though
Posted on 7/2/15 at 5:08 pm to Jamie Lannister
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I'm only poking fun of 'they dream of LSU and arky'.
it's hyperbole.
No it isn't. It's what they ACTUALLY want.
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why would programs like Kansas want two more good teams? even programs like Texas would be basically agreeing to make it harder to win the conference
Because all Kansas cares about is what will make UTx (and OU, to a lesser extent) happy. UTx wants them because their schedule sucks horribly, and they want games that interest them.
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when BIG 10 expanded, they took Rutgers and Maryland, not powerhouses. this is supposed to be a big money conference that anybody would want to be in
There is a huge difference: the B1G has a conference network. The subscription rate that people have to pay for that network goes MUCH higher when the B1G has a school considered w/in the footprint. Rutgers and Maryland bring tons and tons of subscribers. It doesn't matter that their brands are mostly irrelevant.
Conversely, there is no conference network in the B12. They need powerhouse additions to generate fan and ratings interest.
Serious question: are you new to this conference realignment thing?
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