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re: ESPN predicts Dooley fired before 2012 season is over

Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by USMC Gators
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:21 pm to
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You can't fire him for losing to everyone that doesn't suck?

Well 3 of those are against top 10 teams.
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:22 pm to
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Executing a one-season turnaround in the tough SEC is like pulling to an inside straight.


From the article. Clearly he doesn't think we should judge him after two seasons which I agree with. He inherited a dumpster fire. He finally has depth. Now he has to show some wins.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:23 pm to
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Well 3 of those are against top 10 teams.


And one of them is a mediocre team, and all the other teams Tennessee plays are irrelevant.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:23 pm to
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Feldman isn't the one who predicted Dooley gets fired.


Im sure they have similar sources considering they both worked for ESPN and worked together.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:24 pm to
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Im sure they have similar sources considering they both worked for ESPN and worked together.


What are you trying to argue? We're debating Maisel's predictions and you throw Feldman's comment about needing 8 wins. How exactly does that mean Maisel isn't predicting 5 losses?
This post was edited on 5/22/12 at 3:25 pm
Posted by plutonium55
Chernobyl Former USSR
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:34 pm to
Ok.....If dooley is toast who do you hire to put out this dumpster fire?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:34 pm to
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If Tennessee is sitting at 4-4 after losing to Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and South Carolina, I really do hope Hart just fires him then. It will be much easier to get the idiots in the fan base on board with firing a 4-4 coach than it would be if Tennessee won the next 4 games.


we had to do the same with Bill Stewart(RIP) and it paid off in year one
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:36 pm to
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What are you trying to argue? We're debating Maisel's predictions and you throw Feldman's comment about needing 8 wins. How exactly does that mean Maisel isn't predicting 5 losses?


You said 5 or more losses. It is very possible that if Dooley ends up getting 5 losses mid season, he could be let go. I highly doubt he is predicting a 5-7 season again.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:37 pm to
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Ok.....If dooley is toast who do you hire to put out this dumpster fire?


I'd hardly call the program a dumpster fire at this point. It's obviously not at the level of LSU or Labama, but it's not a situation where a quality coach couldn't come in and win the East quickly.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:37 pm to
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And one of them is a mediocre team, and all the other teams Tennessee plays are irrelevant.

Bama?

This post was edited on 5/22/12 at 3:38 pm
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:38 pm to
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You said 5 or more losses. It is very possible that if Dooley ends up getting 5 losses mid season, he could be let go. I highly doubt he is predicting a 5-7 season again.


I'm still not sure what you're trying to argue. If he's predicting Dooley's fired, it means he's probably predicting Dooley loses 5 games. Are you trying to say that's the sign of a good coach?
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:42 pm to
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I'm still not sure what you're trying to argue. If he's predicting Dooley's fired, it means he's probably predicting Dooley loses 5 games. Are you trying to say that's the sign of a good coach?


Spurrier averaged 6 losses in his first 5 years, but USCjr fans were patient. I don't know if he is a good coach or not, but Spurrier is one of the greatest of all time and it took him a while to straighten out USCjr.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:45 pm to
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Spurrier averaged 6 losses in his first 5 years, but USCjr fans were patient. I don't know if he is a good coach or not, but Spurrier is one of the greatest of all time and it took him a while to straighten out USCjr.


We're having the same argument on two different boards.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:47 pm to
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We're having the same argument on two different boards.


lol
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:48 pm to
SC fans were patient because their program isn't exactly on the same level as UT's...
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1633 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:50 pm to
I don't think Maisel is predicting Tennessee to suck, but he's mostly saying Dooley never stood a chance. Which I think if you fire him mid-season will be true. But if you give him a whole season, and no quality wins to show for it, then you can't say he didn't have a chance, just not much of one.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10401 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:51 pm to
Bobby Petrino will have served sufficient 'penance' in the eyes of many by then.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:52 pm to
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I don't think Maisel is predicting Tennessee to suck, but he's mostly saying Dooley never stood a chance. Which I think if you fire him mid-season will be true. But if you give him a whole season, and no quality wins to show for it, then you can't say he didn't have a chance, just not much of one.


After the South Carolina game, he won't have any more opportunities for quality wins next season.
Posted by LA kid but AU fan
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:53 pm to
True story
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 3:53 pm to
So if y'all go 9-3 and only lose to UGA/Bama/SC, will that be enough to get Dooley off of the hot seat?
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