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re: ESPN op ed nails it

Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:01 am to
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:01 am to
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The truth is simple and I'm right


Well, that’s like your opinion broseph
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:01 am to
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When Georgia beats FSU by 30, we'll know



tate rodemaker is a pretty good QB and FSU has a very good defense. UGA looked awful against alabama making tons of mistakes and slow. wouldn't be surprised if FSU beat georgia.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10420 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:03 am to
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What the frick does FSU have to play for?
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can’t imagine being a coach and getting the team pumped up for practice now.


Same with Georgia. But the better team will win
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16535 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:03 am to
Even the old BCS puters had Bama in and FSU out
Posted by Kang of Memphissippi
Memphissippi
Member since Sep 2023
561 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:05 am to
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Do you honestly think FSU is better than Bama?


They had one common opponent, both at home. FSU won by 21, Alabama won by 14

Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28907 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:06 am to
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Same with Georgi

Agreed, but UGA lost. That atleast justifies some things.

Fsu won and found ways to win despite terrible injuries.

Alabama lost.

Posted by Cryptonbarton
Member since Sep 2022
414 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:10 am to
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tate rodemaker is a pretty good QB

He knows how to throw an awful back shoulder pass so short that it draws a PI for his 6’7” receiver. That’s about the only “good QB” thing I can say about him
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:11 am to
if koy moore catches a punt at the end of the game, is bama really one of the 4 best teams?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18421 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:11 am to
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Yes, Florida State is without starting QB Jordan Travis, meaning it would have to play with a quarterback who wasn't its opening-week starter in order to win a national title, and of course that couldn't happen. After all, only 2014 Ohio State, 2017 Alabama, 2018 Clemson and 2021 Georgia did that. What are the odds that something that's happened 44% of the time would happen again?


Nailed it.
Posted by Cryptonbarton
Member since Sep 2022
414 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:11 am to
The ACC schools are already hurting for money. Losing the money from their NY6 game wouldn’t help.
Posted by shallowminded
Member since Nov 2012
2736 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:14 am to
IF, Jordan Travis was still playing FSU would be in, simple as that. They struggled against two much lesser opponents, and they would get smashed by anyone in the top 6!

If FSU played Bama this coming Saturday at a neutral site, who would win? BAMA!
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64613 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:15 am to
Bama fans think everyone is mad because we just hate Bama (while ignoring the only reason they really think Bama deserves to be in is because they want Bama to be in.) But he encapsulates the real reason everyone is mad over Bama getting in over FSU…


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Then we moved to a four-team playoff, and the whole point was to eliminate the hypotheticals and let a champion be crowned by the actual results on the field. If you won your games, you had a chance to win a national title.

Turns out, all of that was a charade. None of it mattered. The games are pointless. What happens on the field is less important than what a committee thinks might happen in a future matchup.

It is an absolute slap in the face to every player who has ever put on a helmet, laced up cleats and marched onto the field to battle for a victory, because a bunch of folks in a conference room in Texas decided their sacrifice was not as important as the Las Vegas line on a potential playoff matchup.



Whatever committee did was make both the regular season and even Power 5 conference championship games meaningless.


He also destroyed the excuse of FSU losing their QB as a valid reason to drop them in favor of Bama…

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Yes, Florida State is without starting QB Jordan Travis, meaning it would have to play with a quarterback who wasn't its opening-week starter in order to win a national title, and of course that couldn't happen. After all, only 2014 Ohio State, 2017 Alabama, 2018 Clemson and 2021 Georgia did that. What are the odds that something that's happened 44% of the time would happen again?

And sure, FSU's passing game was a mess in the ACC championship game. No argument there. Funny thing though: FSU won its title game by more than Alabama did. In fact, FSU has won its past two games by more than Alabama has. And since Travis got hurt in Week 12 against North Alabama, the Seminoles have thrown for just 8 fewer yards than Michigan has in that same stretch, but there was no debate about Michigan.

Oh, and this is probably irrelevant in the face of such a poor quarterback performance against Louisville, but there's also the small matter that the QB who started that game, Brock Glenn, wouldn't be the QB starting a playoff game (since Tate Rodemaker would be out of concussion protocol by then).

The committee cared about one stat when making this decision: FSU's 55 passing yards against Louisville.

Here are the stats it ignored: Seven sacks, 14 tackles for loss, 10 passes defended, 189 rushing yards against a stacked box, a 10-point win over a top-15 team with a QB making his first career start.


And he got down to the real reason the committee did what they did…

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Let's be real about what happened here: The committee members couldn't leave the SEC out of the playoff. They didn't care that Alabama needed a miracle to avoid a loss to 6-6 Auburn two weeks ago. They didn't care that Georgia's own injuries -- playing with a banged-up Ladd McConkey and Brock Bowers -- likely played a large part in why the Tide won Saturday. They didn't care that the ACC has a winning record, head-to-head, against the SEC this season. They didn't care that Alabama beat 2023 Georgia, not 2021 or 2022 Georgia. They cared that Alabama and the SEC had to have a spot in the playoff by birthright. And as a result, they sent a message that what happened on the field -- the blood, tears and sacrifice that players made all season to win every game on their schedule -- was less important than getting the most compelling TV matchup.


Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4168 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:16 am to
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Do you honestly think FSU is better than Bama?


Honestly, I never thought that TCU would beat Michigan.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
5817 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:17 am to
But one was us so that doesn’t count this year, the other was you, that was marginal.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:18 am to
ESPN staff writer for the ACC conference. Gee, I wonder what his take will be.

DNR
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:20 am to
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IF, Jordan Travis was still playing FSU would be in, simple as that.


cannot be stated enough. this is the root of it all. if travis is healthy, FSU is in.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18421 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:20 am to
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DNR


You should. It’s the definitive piece for exposing the bullshite of this year’s playoff. Pretty much a collection of the arguments you’ll find everywhere else.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7529 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:25 am to
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The committee, as usual, makes up the rules to fit its decision.


That line sums up the committee every year. The rules change from year to year.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49183 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:26 am to
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your just mad that it's Bama

Yes
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you're pissed that Bama might win it all.

I said yes.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7529 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:27 am to
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anyone in the playoffs would steam roll them essentially punching a NC game


Hugh assumption. FSU has a great defense.
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